Love, Lies, and Bank Accounts

By Kimberly Palmer

Posted: May 29, 2008

Dr. Bonnie Eaker Weil

Dr. Bonnie Eaker Weil

In Financial Infidelity, Bonnie Eaker Weil, a New York-based relationship therapist, writes about why spouses lie to each other about money and how to stop. She argues that any kind of fib, even failing to tell a partner about a purchase, is a problem. U.S. News spoke with Weil about how to deal with money conflicts in relationships. Excerpts:

What is financial infidelity?
It's something that somebody does behind somebody else's back. It's not just about hiding. It's not about the secret. It's really about the deceit behind the lying and the secret. And it's actually, in my opinion, a subtle form of cheating, and you don't even realize that you're doing it. There's no such thing as an innocent financial fib.

One of the worst parts of financial infidelity is not just keeping a secret but omitting [any mention of your spending]. In my book, you're lying if you're omitting it and spend money on something that you hide.

Are you saying you should really not have any secrets at all from your partner?
Yes, you should not have any secrets. The only thing I tell people is that if you have a fantasy about another man or woman, I don't think it's very helpful to tell [your partner]. But most of the time, if you hide something, you're going to be very distant and irritable with your partner, because you're doing something you feel guilty about.

But what if you have a habit, like buying a daily latte, that really bothers your partner?
That is a question. I always tell people they should have their own money, especially women. Because I don't like to have somebody saying to me—I call it "mother, may I?"—you don't want to get into that position where you're the little girl or you're the little boy, and the other person is your parent. You want to have your own money and certain things are guilt-free, and you just do what you want with it. If you want to buy a latte, or lipstick, or a facial, or get a massage, you do not have to ask permission because it's your own money.

You can say anything over $50, you discuss it, but you don't want to get in a position where you ask permission all the time.

Where do you draw the line between keeping a secret stash and having separate accounts?
It depends a lot on the relationship. You pick a person who is going to give you the most trouble, so you can get somewhere to the middle. If you say you're upset with him because he's saying, "Why did you buy the latte?" you probably picked him because you want someone to calm you down so you're not so much the spendthrift, and he picked you so he can live a little. You have to sit down and talk about it, and I give scripts you can use in my book.

Could you give an example of a type of script you might use?
Let's say you are married. This is what you're not supposed to do: The person would say to you, "I can't believe that you're spending all this money on your mother with medical expenses. I wanted to buy a new house, and now we can't." That's what not to do.

What's wrong with that?
That's blame and shame. And once you blame and shame, people move away, they shut down, they hold a grudge. So the way you would say it would be, "It makes sense and I can totally understand how worried you are about your mother and why you would like to pay for the medical bills." That's validating. The next sentence would be, "I'm wondering how we could afford a new house if you pay for your mother's medical bills." Then the person can say, "Maybe I can get a new job. Maybe I can ask my brother to help with the bills."

So you need to be empathetic.
Exactly. We're trying to bring out the love between two people. So in this case, once the wife is understanding about the medical bills, the man is more willing to say, "Let's give it a shot." But if you're blaming and shaming, he's always going to stick up for his mother.

When should you start talking about money?
I believe in the early rounds of dating, say by the second or third date, you should be using the money language of love and finding out where this person is money-wise. Often people are in the honeymoon stage, their heads are in the clouds, and then they get married, and then they have a big problem.

Men are now dating for money more than women, according to our survey. Men don't know what to do, whether to pay or not. And women are hiding [their wealth]. A woman won't show men her beautiful new apartment or Louis Vuitton bag because she's afraid, so she dates down. And more men now are putting career second and relationship first, so there's a real pendulum swing. The men are feeling obsolete and women don't want to outshine the men, so we have to re-evaluate this new power dynamic.

So how do you start the conversation?
So on the second date, you need to feel the person out. You say things like, how do you feel about buying an apartment in the city? And you see how they handle the bill—if the man says, would you like dessert, would you like a grappa, as opposed to ordering the cheapest thing on the menu. Also, if the man doesn't do anything about the check and expects you to pay, [that is another clue]. You also want to ask about the money history of the parents. Not like a job interview, but nonchalantly.

You have to be careful. Money is very personal. I find that people are more reluctant to talk about money than to talk about sex. You might even say, "Oh, I love my Louis Vuitton bag," and he might say, "How much was that?" and you might say, "Oh, $3,000," and if he says, "What?" then you'll know he might be more of a saver, or even a hoarder. But if he says, "You deserve it—you work hard," then you'll see that he has more of an attitude similar to my family, which is that money can also be used for fun. You work hard and you play hard.

But it's OK if you find out you're dating someone with a different money philosophy?
Absolutely. Don't be afraid to date someone who is the opposite of you with money, because the two opposites neutralize each other. People don't understand that if you pick a person who gives you the most trouble that [it] will challenge you in the areas you need help with. It's very unusual for people to have the same money [attitude].

Separate Secret Account

I have three bank accounts. Two joint and one that I feel is mine all mine and it doesn't concern you because our financial life doesn't depend on this account and if you leave today at least I have that. Well I recently purchase a car and with the payments that I will be making my husband feels as though I can't afford it. The reality is that I can based on paycheck. But if I have something extra that I want to purchase I have my secret account to cover it. He asks to see ALL account statements and I don't bring this one to the table. He says if I can't produce that statement for him then he knows where we stand. I wouldn't want that to be the demise of our relationship but I don't think tha is any of his business. The money was there before him and it will be there after him. What should I do because I am not bringing it to the table?

Zakira of NY @ Apr 03, 2009 15:06:00 PM

And if you are already married?

how do you start the conversation?

cathyann @ May 30, 2008 14:19:34 PM

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