Nariman Behravesh: No-Nonsense Economics

Centrist opinions on globalization and immigration too often get shouted down

By Kirk Shinkle

Posted: December 2, 2008

In an era where the phrase "spin free" often connotes the opposite, attempts to find middle ground in America's economic debate are too often shouted down, according to longtime economy watcher Nariman Behravesh. In his new book, Spin-Free Economics: A No-Nonsense, Nonpartisan Guide to Today's Global Economic Debates (McGraw-Hill), he lays out some partisan myths about the economy and notes where dismal scientists actually agree on hotly debated issues. Excerpts of a chat:

What's wrong with our public debate about economics?
The biggest frustration I have is how polarized it's become. The public hears either the very right- or left-wing view, or optimists versus pessimists, but the center gets lost. Economists agree about a lot of things, and that gets overwhelmed by the ideological debate. As a genre, the media, especially the electronic media, play into this because controversy sells.

What myths get recycled the most?
The notion that any tax increase is bad is a popular myth on the right. Raising consumption, carbon, or gasoline taxes can be a good thing because they raise revenue and move toward less dependence on imported energy and cleaner cars. Another on the right is that immigration is bad. The reality is that immigration, legal or illegal, is good for the economy. If we got rid of illegal immigrants, the cost of a lot of stuff would go up. I understand the notion of territorial integrity, but the reality is immigrants fill a big economic need.

And on the left?
On the left, it's the visceral, negative reaction to globalization. The reality is globalization on net is very positive. Clearly, some people get hurt. There's no debate about that. But the way to deal with that is not to stop globalization but to help the people who are left behind. The other myth on the left is that the way out of our fiscal dilemma is to tax the rich more. I just remind people that the top 1 percent of income earners pay 25 percent of total income taxes. The top 10 percent pay half. While it may be popular from a populist point of view to tax the rich even more, it's not going to do much for us in terms of more income.

Do economists really agree on those issues?
Economists agree the net gains of globalization are very real. They aren't really divided about this. I think politicians are. Most economists would agree the gains from immigration are largely positive. People can debate the compression on low-skilled wages, but even if you factor those in . . . the debate is how big the gain is from immigration.

What important debates get lost?
One is the tax structure. It's clearly too complex in the United States. Removing a lot of distortions in [taxes] makes a lot more economic decisions less dependent on the tax code. The second is healthcare reform, and tangled up in that is Medicare. There's a tendency of Democrats to focus on the coverage issue and Republicans to focus on the cost issue. You have to tackle both.

Gotcha question: Are you a Republican or a Democrat?
I'm a habitual ticket splitter. I make a religion out of it almost. I'm registered Democrat, but I've voted for Republicans for Senate, governor, and president. I'm not a straight-line party voter.

Globalization the lefts big failing?

Before I get the backlash that he sited liberal mythology on globalization this is a very disproportionate lament of liberal economics. Why not focus on the much broader point of a socialist inclination to redistribute wealth and manage all aspects of a society outright? While there is smoke blown above he shares the same know-it-all inclinations.

The policy problems themselves are largely rooted in government excess all performed under the central planners claim of the "common good". As it fails the solution is only another round of more planning at greater loss of freedom and socialized expense. Behravesh is right on board with the "correct" no-spin policy to save the day?

Chris of MA @ Jan 26, 2009 23:03:03 PM

Partisanship dressed as moderate "no-spin"? Pleeaase!

Notice the "common myths" are all core conservative economic values. Paul Krugman would call himself a sensible "moderate" and the game goes on as usual.

All this is done for the soft fence sitter in the middle but it's twaddle pure and simple. Behravesh is a liberal operative, here is shilling for stimulus with the usual liberal "newsperson" throwing out the fear points;

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Business/2009/01/05/Nariman-Behravesh-Global/1231206441.html

Why should we be surprised? He's based in Lexington MA, selling to mainly NE liberal clients. At least he's honest in reporting his terrible predictive forcasts regarding the "crisis" itself. So as long as the "middle" is mostly liberal in power base it will all be about "no-spin" and phony moderation. People like this are cummulatively more dangerous than obvious partisan moonbats like Krugman as the soft-soap is easier to sell than what is dished out at the NYTimes.

Chris of MA @ Jan 26, 2009 22:47:05 PM

Why

Why does everyone always assume that spending and taxing always has to increase? They want to have sin taxes and then complain when those who were paying for it reform and no longer sin. (Smoking and drinking) The demand for fuel goes down because of the price yet everyone expects the same profit margins. Government produces nothing. It generally drives the prices up for the public sector and perpetuates the constant need for a war on something. The poor, terrorism, drugs and so forth. They wont win these wars no matter how many pie in the sky dreams we have. Its like racism. If you define a person or persons as a group instead of individuals you throw fuel to the fire. Our constitution defined our Rights as those belonging to individuals and until we realise that someone will always be looking for a handout or up in the name of group. Personal responsibility is what it going to take to solve this. It is in a lazy mans nature to get something for nothing. Look at second and now third generation welfare families. Not good!

Jeff of WI @ Jan 12, 2009 20:15:26 PM

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