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What's Up With Stimulus Stocks?

By Kirk Shinkle

Posted: December 18, 2008

Stocks are bouncing around today despite news the Obama Administration is considering an absolutely huge stimulus package that could be worth some $850 billion.

A bit of context from Bloomberg:

Barack Obama may ask Congress next year to approve a stimulus plan of around $850 billion, an amount that has grown as the U.S. economy sinks deeper into recession, an adviser to the president-elect said.

Obama’s transition team believes the amount, about 6 percent of the U.S.’s $14 trillion economy, is needed to reverse rising unemployment, said the adviser, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The sum would exceed initial estimates by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, as well as surpassing what some economists and the International Monetary Fund say is required.

Pelosi and Reid were kicking around spending plans worth between $400 billion and $600 billion, and that gave investors a buy sign back in early December. So, if we now expect stimulus to be substantially higher (and still have no concrete evidence of where exactly that money will go other than vague discussion of roads, healthcare, renewable energy, etc.), shouldn't we be seeing more of a rally in stimulus-related stocks?

A few possibilities: First, the market may have already priced in the stimulus bump. Oft-touted infrastructure plays like smart-meter maker Itron (ITRI) are up more than 40 percent in the last month. Heavy engineering and construction firms like Jacobs Engineering (JEC) and Fluor (FLR) are up 62 percent and 48 percent respectively. Second, while the stimulus payout may be growing, the economy is getting worse. Picking stocks based on government spending alone can't be done without considering how the economic woes that caused such massive intervention in the first place will translate to lower profits overall, even for companies who reap the stimulus benefits.

Proper Bailout Money Use

The only way to create self-sustaining jobs is to create a product that people will buy, that takes many people to make and lasts long enough to get past the loan terms it takes to buy the product in the first place but then becomes obsolete due to new technology or other advancements so people will want or need to buy another one. Wow - that means we should use the bailout money to support auto manufacturers by forcing them to immediately bring back a bunch of outsourced jobs and immediately start building more fuel efficient models that everyone will want to buy because they will be 100% USA made. Then the economy will rally and the problems will be over because people that have jobs will make payments on loans and mortgages plus actually pay taxes so we can have good roads and bridges too.

What a nice dream.

Ted Ryfiak of MI @ Dec 18, 2008 13:37:40 PM

The No Stimulus Stimulus!!!

Perhaps folks are finally realizing that borrowing more money simply to give away isn't a stimulus only increasing our debts ergo digging our hole a little deeper. Since we cannot control where the money will be used it is a wasted effort. True, the influx of cash does have a feel good effect on the numbers for a short time but like a painreliever if not readministered regularly does nothing to address the situation. For this reason any "stimulus" should be tangible as in jobs. By creating employment it benefits more people and longer lasting. Better yet, how about a new concept of employment loans where jobs are created by the government but job takers must repay the loan which created the job over time. This was the thought behind endenturement to provide the down trodden with opportunity in exchange for their services over time. May seem archaic yet desparate times call for desparate measures!!!

Ray Fisher of NM @ Dec 18, 2008 12:00:04 PM

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Kirk Shinkle is a senior editor at U.S. News. He writes daily about ups and downs in equity markets, sectors and stocks. Formerly, he covered business and economics on both coasts for Investor's Business Daily.

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