Risky Business

Last Post on Joe the Plumber

By Matthew Bandyk

Posted: October 22, 2008

I was reading through the whirlwind of discussion that my post last week on "Joe the Plumber" set off, and I noticed that most readers were in agreement about one point: I am dead wrong about licensing.

Here's a good example from commenter "Ol' Whip":

Yes it does matter. It is an outside certification that he actually knows what he is doing and won't cause your house to flood, your sewage to back up or your boiler to explode.

Lot's of folks can change a light bulb but I sure don't want them claiming to be electricians and working on my house.

With all due respect to my esteemed readers, I just find this argument perplexing. It doesn't square with my personal experience of how consumers try to make sure they are buying quality service—and I'm guessing many other people have similar experiences.

Of all the ways of demonstrating to consumers that they will get their money's worth when buying a service, government licensing seems like the LEAST important by far.

It seems to me that people are much more likely to ask for recommendations from friends or family or look for businesses with nice ads in the local paper long before they worry about who passed what tests set by the local or state government.

What's more, consumers' ability to weed out the bad businesses from the good is being enhanced all the time by the Internet. Yelp.com, for example, has proved to me to be a very useful tool at finding feedback about local businesses.

I don't expect to persuade everyone, but I think people should consider all the ways that the market can enforce its own quality control before we jump to the conclusion that we need costly licensing laws.

Carl Schramm has more about how the "Joe the Plumber" story illustrates why we need more risk-taking in our economy, not less.

Licensure still a necessary review element

Licensure is not the only part – but its an important element – in the toolbox that every consumer should have when it comes to making hiring decisions.

That’s why we at Angie’s List encourage consumers to look at the detailed information our members provide about the actual experiences they have already had with service companies. We then encourage them to check whether the contractor is licensed, professionally accredited, bonded and insured BEFORE they hire. We work hard to ensure the information in our reports is as accurate and reliable as it can be, and we offer links to help consumers determine up-to-date licensure status.

None of those elements alone will guarantee that you’ll get what you pay for, but together, they’ll give you a much better chance.

So, Matt, you're partly right -- consumer reviews are the wave of the future and a good indication of quality. But you shouldn't dismiss licensure altogether.

Cheryl Reed of IN @ Oct 23, 2008 16:39:35 PM

Would You Hire Yourself MJP?

MJP, you miss the point. If I want to hire someone who is incompetent, woe to me. But who would hire you to represent them in court? To engage in neurosurgery on my brain? How do I go about choosing someone to do these things for me? Do I look at a certificate on the wall to make me feel safe that this person has done a good job? Absolutely not. I ask friends, I search the internet, I look for other customer's satisfaction.

Stop being so very afraid of new ideas that you clearly have not thought through. Licensing ironically leads to LOWER quality standards, not higher.

Danny of IL @ Oct 23, 2008 10:33:53 AM

Joe the Plumber " liscensing"?

So if I take this argument a little further down the road, then I guess the marketplace will determine if my Doctor is fit to practice, or my lawyer will understand the legal system and represent me competently.No Certification needed.

I always wanted to be a neurosurgeon and in fact bought and read a couple of books on it. Give me holler should you need brain surgery. I'm sure I'll do just as well as any state licensed M.D. I'll be happy to plead your case if you're indicted for murder as well. I've watched a lot of "Law and Order" and think I can get you off. - cheap.

didn't have to invest in all that training to pass the bar.

Certification of competence in a trade or profession is only one part of the equation. There are trade groups, and professional organizations that insure standards.

What is proposed here is that meeting standards, or quality in performance be abandoned to the consensus of the mob, or believing and trusting what you read on the internet.

There are a lot of places in the world where this in effect. Generally the electricity is on a few hours a day, the plumbing leads to a ditch in the street and the local doctor knows more about reading the entrails of a chicken then common medical treatments. Not to worry about information off the internet as no one knows what that is. The only net around is for fishing.

When I read stuff like this I become afraid. Very afraid.

We are definitely circling the drain, provided Joe got the hook up right

MJP of NY @ Oct 22, 2008 21:29:07 PM

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Matt Bandyk, a reporter for U.S. News, explores capitalism from where it all begins, with the entrepreneur, whose risk taking and experimentation provide the roots from which the rest of the economy grows. As much courage as it takes to create one's own business, even the entrepreneur needs some help, and this blog will look at news, trends, and practical advice for starting and running a small business.

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