Yellowstone Earthquake Swarm: Updated

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;-) pointless

Hi,

you are right Patty. Anyhow, conversations about this are pointless in any case, because nobody can go underground and take a look what is really going on down there.

The point is to watch and to be aware that this "thing" is alive and we, or future generations may be forced some day, to deal with it`s wakeup...

Your sientists do their best I belive, and they also will have questionsmarks on their foreheads sometimes, but I´m sure they are truthful.

Jürgen

Jürgen form germany @ Jan 15, 2009 15:19:45 PM

Yellowstone

The fact is that there are different types of earthquakes. There are 2 types, easily recognized by scientists, that indicate volcanic activity. If they are saying that the current swarm is seismic that probably means that the earthquakes are *NOT* of the type that indicates the movement of magma.

If they are not being truthful then we can not trust anything they say and the whole conversation is pointless.

Patty Foy of VA @ Jan 15, 2009 14:19:20 PM

New swarm?

Hi,

looks like a new swarm is just starting...

Jürgen S. @ Jan 10, 2009 07:05:56 AM

what I ment

Hi,

I should have said, that I ment, that the earthquake-swarms are caused by the inflating magmabubble below YNP but I hope/guess that this (weak) EQ-swarms only could cause some hydrothermal explosions no volcanic erruption.

Jürgen

Jürgen S. from germany @ Jan 07, 2009 09:03:20 AM

NOT CLEAN AIR

Studies show that industrial particulates may be masking another few degrees of CO2 warming

KYAGB of AK @ Jan 06, 2009 19:24:11 PM

Jurgen

The quakes were not hydrothermal as first thought. Quake analysis at U of U shows "souble-coupled signatures" meaning there was no fluid involved and only rock on rock sliding. Look at the swarm dimentions and Lake bathymetry, particularly the Inflated Plain discovered in 2003. The Lake may actually be a volcanic crater with the swarm zone delineating the old chimney that is being uplifted by expansion of the magma chamber below. Their sensors don't have enough resolution to definitively detect these features and I'm challenging USGS to get better/more seismic instrumentation, aerial optic and IR observation and bathymetric surveys. Please help.

KYAGB of AK @ Jan 06, 2009 19:10:25 PM

a lot things to worrie about if you want

one more from germany ;-)

there are, if anybody wants to, a lot of thing you can worrie about.

a lot of information is now possible to be viewed by public via internet,

but it is difficult for a non-sientist to read the significand information out of it.

And global timescale is not compatible with human understanding of time.

I found once a statistic in the net: time vs. major asteroid impacts on earth and they did say to it that our solarsystem is oscillating in the milkyway and all major impacts occured to be at a specific point of this oscillating curve... and we are now exactly at this point again...

today I read an article in witch they say, that sientists just found out, that the global climate is 3times more effected by global volcanic activity as belived so far. They say we only have such a strong golbal warming these days, because there are missing some major volcanic erruptions for some years. The stratosphere is just too clean...

sometimes one can think it could be the time, that a "global event" (what nature ever) would be not so bad to "reboot" the system and show us humans that we are not so big as we think we are and sitting in the same little boat, staring hypnotized like a rabbit into the headlights of a car speeding towards us on a dark highway, unable to react.

The best would be to accept that our existance is just another a period of this planets life and allso our time will end. If we can do anything to get an "extra lap", well lets try. We need first to stop to killing ourselfs... and try to have fun together

Jürgen

At this point: sorry for bad english an spelling mistakes.

Thanks Libbie!

Jürgen from germany @ Jan 06, 2009 18:20:25 PM

difference

Hi,

it is a big difference between a "normal" vulcano and a supervulcano like yellowstone.

even a highly explosiv big stratovulcano (as we in germany call a highriskivulcano like f.e. Vesuv) is nothing against yellowstone.

the behavior prior to an erruption of some vulcanotypes is more or less understood this time, but not of a thing like yellowstone.

I myself was highly nerveous as the big earthquake/tsunami occured north of sumatra dec. 2006 not far from Toba. Ther is still strong seismic activity going on there and I wonder if this heavy activity could trigger toba to whatever, but Toba errupted "only" 75000years ago, so do not worrie too much.

In case of yellowstone and it´s cycle of activity in the last 2mio years I am more into watch tight, just to be informed...

Watch the webicorders of YNP no for ~10 years, and in the last 10 days I see things never occured before...

http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/lkwy_webi.htm

http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/lkwy_webi_6d.htm

I mean it just looks different then what I saw in the years before. Even as the strong Alaska-Earthquake some years ago triggerd YNP hydrothermal system to change significant.

however, I still guess/hope this activity is all hydrothermal and not volcanic.

Jürgen

Jürgen S. from germany @ Jan 06, 2009 16:44:13 PM

Take a look back at Mt saint Helens

The quakes that swarmed starting about 2 months prior to the eruption,

they started in the 2s and moved on up in magnatude over that period.

They are seeing 3-3.9 now. I feel this is a good indication that there

is a little more going on than just a little rumbling.

BK of NJ of NJ @ Jan 06, 2009 00:14:39 AM

Bears

@ Craig of WY

"This bears not hibernating business, I'd be curious to hear more about that. Not because of a whole volcano thing; but the weather here has been just... odd this winter."

Bears do not hibernate. They go into a state called "torpor" which is biologically unlike hibernation. Many, many different factors can cause bears to not reach torpor state, including weather being warmer than usual and food being more abundant later into the fall/early winter. Individual bears also may fail to achieve torpor when others in their local range adopt the state, and vice-versa.

To the best of my knowledge, seismic activity has never been an indicator of decreased torpor states in bear populations.

I have actually NOT heard that brown bears in Yellowstone are failing to go into torpor this year. I believe that is a rumor cooked up by the supervolcano fan club, and will continue to believe so until I'm shown a reliable resource proving otherwise.

Libbie of UT @ Jan 05, 2009 23:58:32 PM

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