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Russian Igor Panarin: America Will Break Up, Dissolve

By James Pethokoukis

Posted: December 29, 2008

OK, so the WSJ has an interview with Russian foreign policy expert and former KGB analyst Igor Panarin about his prediction that the United States will disintegrate:

He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysts, he says. He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.

"California will form the nucleus of what he calls "The Californian Republic," and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of "The Texas Republic," a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an "Atlantic America" that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls "The Central North American Republic." Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.

Me: First of all, I am pretty sure this the plot of the 1984 classic film Red Dawn. Second, any political disintegration of America and accompanying economic chaos would drag Russia and China right along with it. Third, Russia, with its aging society, falling longevity rates, commodity economy and ethnic tensions, is more likely to fall apart. Fourth, this completely ridiculous.

 

He loses credibility with his scenarios

California will become part of China? New York will become part of the EU? Texas will go back to Mexico? Come on, that strains credibility from the get-go. These three states would become their own countries in a semi-realistic scenario. In a more realistic scenario, the US is most likely to break up along the lines of its historical Confederate states, with Texas anchoring the south. The remaining states would probably want to become more like Canada, and might decide to merge with it, or at least subsume it.

Yousuf @ Oct 25, 2009 11:54:21 AM

Whatever Panarin's motives: It's not a bad idea

I am an American and you know what? I think this is a great idea. We are not a single nation in any meaningful way. Nothing gets done because we agree on nothing. We hate one another, and with good reason as far as I’m concerned. I don’t want sub-human bible thumpers from the south having ANY say in how my country is run and I’m sure they feel the same about us. Breaking up the United States would be the best thing for all concerned. Let’s admit what is obvious: The Empire is dead and cannot recover—nor should it; let’s part ways now.

A.J. Stoner of NJ @ Aug 03, 2009 20:32:09 PM

He might be crazy, but he could be half right.

The US has become an empire, emboldened on the world stage by the collapse of the Soviet Union. Empires are too unstable to last for any real length of time because a police state can only hold power for so long. Panarin's post breakup map is laughable and far from sober, but his message should be viewed as a warning.

OscarC of TX @ Jul 03, 2009 21:03:26 PM

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