Obama and the Socialist 'Thing'

Government running our lives

The government has been running our lives for years. Someone has to do a better job at it than this (the Bush) administration.

I see no advantage for the government to take more from the rich. Why would any one think that when you take from the rich that they will not just raise prices more , and the poor get poorer. The Gov. can control the price of a gallon of milk, but not the price of gasoline that it costs to drive to the store to buy it?

The politicians are totally out of touch. I think that we still on a down hill slide. Instead of bailing out the auto industries, MAKE them build efficient cars. Instead of talking about highly expensive changes in alternative fuels, why not talk about something big business evades. That is the use of "hydrogen on demand" that can be easily adapted to existing cars. Safe and easily can cut fuel costs by 50% ,NOW, TODAY,IMMEDIATELY. Home do it your selfers are doing it every day. www.water4gas.com just drove a VW turbo diesel across the country with a 50% increase in fuel mileage. Tens of thousands of people around the world Can do it at home. And the auto manufacturers can't ???

On another note, Government employees need to stop voting themselves pay increases and vote for a decrease. If the government wants to get the economy rolling make the powerful insurance companies lower their homeowner rates that they pushed up after a few hurricanes and have made that return many times over since then. I can go on and on about what the little guy talks about. But the Big guy and the Politicians are OUT OF TOUCH, and greed runs everything.

If you read this, thanks. If you print it, thanks a lot. If you look into this Hydrogen on Demand , you deserve a medal

Jim Ellis of FL @ Nov 28, 2008 11:56:00 AM

Socialism works!!!

Hey stupid Republican's, Socialism works!!! it's improved the lives of people throughout this world. You just don't like it because you're greedy with the money you've been given by an economy upon which you rely on the rest of the social network to pay you!!! There is no free market, just those who are hooked up with money and those on the outside of the system. Obam,a is going to make sure everyone is allowed to have a piece of the pie. If you don't like it MOVE somewhere else!! but your so-called "private property" (just a post-Nietchain construction anyway) will be shared whether you like it or not.

Pepe of FL @ Oct 22, 2008 13:10:01 PM

yep it is a dangerous road

but yet we have a all liberal congress? Everyone likes to blame republicans when our congress is almost all liberal? Are you saying our congress has no say, its all the president? I think you need to go back to high school and learn about checks and balances.

of MO @ Oct 15, 2008 18:37:27 PM

Dear Michael of CA

Thanks for displaying your ignorance. Lets do "look at what great shape were (sic) in now", shall we?

1) We have a credit crisis

2) Inarguably created by government intervention in the markets - gov't mandates to provide subprime mortgages, which wouldn't have been written but for public/private meddling (Fannie and Freddie)

3) Repubs tried, over and over, to put a stop to this mess

4) Dems blocked it, in exchange for huge campaign contributions

So, your solution to a problem caused by gov't intervention is- MORE government intervention?

Brilliant. Real brilliant. No wonder we are in this mess... the idiots that caused this mess are set to benefit by it (this time with political power, not just campaign contributions and outright profiteering), and 'smart' people like you are out there exacerbating the misunderstanding.

"The republican way?" Do you even know what that is? And if so, have you ever, you know, read a history book, read an economics book, or hell, even just looked around at the world and seen who has been doing well (Ireland, for example) and not (umm, every single socialist nation)?

Colbyaw of IL @ Oct 13, 2008 13:56:18 PM

Read John Adams

Adam Smith, the icon of free markets who coined and later dismissed the term "invisible hand of the market" belief on taxes was "to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities." Sounds like economic justice, Modern american conservatives need to read the very philosophy they allege to believe in. Your belief system rejects the very foundation you defend. This is called either hypocrisy or ignorance.

MW of WA @ Oct 11, 2008 17:16:34 PM

reply to "dangerous road" lol comment

You are an idiot. If Obama's way is so much better then why did Russia fail? Communism is just socialisms next step. Its alright for you to say "soak the rich cause they can afford it", but what would you say when they decide that your income is too much and take from you to give to someone who makes less? Before you say a stupid answer, do you give alot of your money to those in need? Probably not.

lewis riker of NY @ Sep 08, 2008 20:51:27 PM

Obama's Venture Socalism

The most striking aspect of the Obama plan is what it does NOT include: not a single kind word for all the various existing tax incentives that have spurred along the development of hybrid cars, solar power and other clean technologies. These incentives have been hugely successful in convincing millions of Americans to buy cleaner, more efficient hybrids, or put solar panels up on their roofs. Expanding these successful programs is key to moving America over to green energy. But not a single mention of these in the Obama plan. No commitment to either expanding or even maintaining these policies.

That omission should be profoundly disturbing to any serious environmentalist.

Anyone interested in keeping government lean and efficient should also be disturbed, because these tax incentives are the one extremely effective solution that does not require new taxes, spending or regulation, that does not grow the government.

By contrast, McCain's energy plan is way ahead of Obama's in his support for a wide array of existing and new tax incentives for green energy. I will soon take a look at McCain's plan on my blog, GreenEnrgyTaxCuts.com -- but for now, back to Obama.

Obama should be applauded for the few incentives he does propose: incentives to encourage cellulosic ethanol, E85 pumps at gas stations, and retooling of auto plants to produce more fuel efficient cars. But those three narrow incentives are nowhere near enough... and smack of government bureaucrats trying to pick winners and losers in the green energy universe for political reasons. For instance, ethanol may not be the best solution out there for a transportation fuel, compared to say, plug-in natural gas hybrids. Ethanol does not reduce carbon emissions or dependence on foreign oil, while natural gas vehicles do both, dramatically. But ethanol has a very powerful farm lobby behind it. Green energy development should not be driven by such politics. Green energy tax cuts should be broad based, across the board, letting the market pick the winners among the most cost effective, carbon neutral/negative technologies available.

So if Obama does not support existing and successful green energy tax incentives, what does he support? Unfortunately, most of his solutions are typical Big Government initiatives, based on increasing taxes, spending and regulation. I will deal with the new taxes and regulations in my next post on my blog GreenEnergyTaxCuts.com. But the worst aspect of Obama's plan is the new spending, which Mr. Obama calls "investment."

Obama proposes $150 billion investment over ten years for a variety of green energy technologies, plus an additional $50 billion over five years for a "Clean Technologies Venture Capital Fund." In addition, he plans to double federal energy R&D budgets, and proposes unspecific amounts for investment in "clean coal," clean tech worker re-training, and clean tech manufacturing conversion.

So you may ask, what is wrong with all that? After all, this blog proposes that we need massively more green energy investment. Well the research part of it is good, very good. We need good solid research on these technologies, both private and public. No problem there. The problem is with the various investment schemes.

Obama is proposing to launch the very first federally-funded venture capital firm ever. Sounds exciting, sure. The problem is, when you do that, it is no longer venture capitalism. It is venture socialism. And that -- state investment in and ownership of key industries (i.e. socialism) -- carries a host of pitfalls that true (i.e. private) venture capitalism avoids.

1) It fosters corruption, and can easily turn into a protection/payola racket. We absolutely do not want to train our green CEO to come clamoring to politicians for their personal access to the public teat. Politicians should never be able to wield that kind of power -- it is incredibly corrupting. Companies end up being given investments for political payback reasons -- because they gave the right campaign contributions and other perks -- not because they are the most efficient green energy company. Bureaucrats and politicians start picking winners and losers based on the size of their lobby, not the competitiveness of their technology. All such investment decisions should be strictly private, and NEVER EVER put into the hands of politicos.

While Obama and the people around him may have the best of intentions, one has to wonder how many of his contributors are wealthy green entrepreneurs who have done the math and figured that, for their $25,000 contribution, they get a favored spot in the line for the $25 billion a year that B.O. plans to "invest." If so, it stinks. We need to close the doors on all payola schemes, not create new ones.

2) State funding becomes a crutch for inefficient businesses that never bother to learn how to be independent because they have political connections. Many state owned businesses, like Amtrak, lose money continuously, and become dependent on state financing to survive. The best way to avoid that fiasco with green energy is to never let such companies become dependent on state financing in the first place. Making green energy tax free avoids that pitfall, because, even with such tax advantage, such companies still must be profitable to survive and keep their (private) investors happy. State funding allows favored companies to operate indefinitely at a loss; tax exemption does not.

Lastly, Obama's state-funded investment schemes are simply not enough to do the job that needs to be done. We need way, WAY more new investment than $25 billion a year, and the only way we can get the investment numbers we need is to massively motivate private investors and consumers.

Look at the numbers: Last year, world investment in renewable energy technologies was $148 billion. If we want to reach the point where clean, renewable energy accounts for 50% to 100% of the US and global market in 10 - 20 years, we need to raise global green energy investment by about 500%, from the present $150 billion annually, to $750 billion. $25 billion is really peanuts . You are only going to get the kind of numbers we need through the free market, by radically changing the economic picture, by making the entire green energy sector tax exempt on account of the good it does our nation and the planet.

If the US does that, we will certainly hit our annual $750 billion globally in the next president's first term, and most of it will be invested through the tax-advantaged US markets, making the US the world leader in in green energy, supplying both US and international needs. Obama's plan won't get us there, can't deliver those numbers, and will cause our green energy sector to fall behind Europe, China, South Asia and Latin America.

The crying shame of all this is that Obama really should be backing green energy tax cuts, and NOT these quasi-socialist state investment schemes. Not only because the former policy will actually jump start a green energy revolution and the later will not. But also, because, doing so would certainly burnish his image as a "New Democrat" favoring innovative small government, free market solutions. Instead, it seems he is being ill-served by his advisors, who would rather have a scheme that allows the future Obama administration to write multi-million dollar checks to outstandingly rich green entrepreneurs (and potential donors) who may give a few thousand to the campaign right now.

Sadly, these advisors are leaving Obama open to some very serious criticism, and give McCain the opportunity to put himself forward as the truly green candidate. However, it is not too late for either Obama or McCain to step forward and seize the initiative on this issue.

Rod Richardson of KS @ Aug 06, 2008 00:51:20 AM

He is a socialist

ALL THOSE OBAMA SUPPORTERS THINK THAT CHANGE IS GOOD. HE MIGHT BE GOOD BECAUSE A OBAMA WHITE HOUSE WILL NOT A "GOOD CHANGE'.

OBAMA WANTS MORE GOVERNMENT,BY THE WAY WHAT ARE HIS CREDIENTALS. HE VOTED NOT TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ.

HE WANTS EVERYONE INCLUDING THE RICH TO BE EQUAL.

HE WILL RAISE TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mR.c of RI @ Aug 04, 2008 17:21:17 PM