Trade Wars: Obama vs. ... Obama?

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Odd, the MSM isn't covering this

If Obama becomes president, the chances of him pulling out of or even doing anything major regarding NAFTA are extremely slim. Even as he tells Ohioans one thing, he says something quite different here:

tinyurl.com/23nfhb

That link discusses a recent opinion piece from Obama in which he indicates his support for Bush's SPP (spp.gov), aka "NAFTA on steroids". He wants a few left-leaning changes, but those are relatively minor and cosmetic in nature. No matter what he says in Ohio, at the end of the day he supports Bush's SPP scheme.

Not only that, but he has to speak in code to do it.

LonewackoDotCom of CA @ Feb 29, 2008 18:34:44 PM

Lie or no lie?

Is CTV's report a lie, or did Obama's top economic advisor make that call. Somebody's lying here. If it's Obama then this is hardly "changing Washington", this is good ole fashioned political pandering-only with possibly serious consequences. But I'm sure nobody will follow up with any tough questioning and force the candidate to come clean.

I'm not wild about any of the three candidates, but what I really don't get about Obama is; when did he make the transition from obscure Washington politicain with no real legislative accomplishments to speak of, to GOD? Why weren't women fainting in his presence two years ago? There's actually a website that asks the question: Is Obama the Messiah? Answer: NO. In fact he maight just be another used car salesman that the media has annointed as the "Black JFK". If you people don't start thinking and stop emoting we're going to be in serious trouble. Stop the cult of personality BS and start asking the truly important questions about out of control government spending, suffocating entitlement programs, border security, etc...

Mark of FL @ Feb 29, 2008 18:20:21 PM

the messiah Obama

it's interesting how those in Obama's cult can't see anything but the bright light that shines from their god.

Erich of SC @ Feb 29, 2008 17:55:14 PM

To Let's get real:

You are so right on point. Except, perhaps we should listen to what these comments are trying so hard not to say....

All news accounts of the nafta call are titled: "This story is a hoax (lie)"? yet huge amounts of venom can be detected in comments of outrage. You see, they really want to express their true rejection of Senator Obama but are ashamed to admit the source of their objection.

I suppose that one boogey after another will be invented to mask again and again and release again and again suppression of the angst of their outrage.

marvelous of NC @ Feb 29, 2008 17:17:41 PM

Who can tell what Obama is saying about NAFTA?

He's already been caught telling Canada one story while he's telling the American voters another, watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMpbpov-HcA

Who is he lying to? Well there's a survey poll at:

http://vet4hill.googlepages.com/surveyindex.htm

v4hill of FL @ Feb 29, 2008 17:04:43 PM

Factoids

I find it interesting that thoes who do not like your article and factoids also do not rebutt them. Does that mean that they accept them as facts?

Dick Murphy of VA @ Feb 29, 2008 16:51:20 PM

Let's get real

those NAFTA quotes were taken out of context, number 1.

there is nothing inconsistent about wanting to renegotiate NAFTA to add protections for workers and the environment; while also believing that we live in a global community, one where the US economy is dependent on trade.

and number 2, the CTV Canada NAFTA story you guys are banging on about has already been debunked, ie, proven to be completely made up.

look, let's take our shots at politicians, absolutely. but if we are going to take shots, let's at least be truthful about the shots we're going to argue, huh?

Frank of NY @ Feb 29, 2008 16:36:55 PM

Obama on NAFTA

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

Jim Geraghty at the National Review Online "Campaign Spot" wrote that a "senior member of Barack Obama's campaign" called the Canadian embassy to tell them not to worry about Obama's talking about pulling out of NAFTA, because "it was just campaign rhetoric and not to be taken seriously".

So Barack Obama tells American voters things that Canadians are not supposed to take seriously! What other parts of Obama's campaign rhetoric are not to be taken seriously? Can any of it be taken seriously?

To whom is Obama lying--Canadians or Americans? Don't American voters deserve the truth? Does anyone really know what Obama would do if elected President?

Steve Z of CT @ Feb 29, 2008 16:04:15 PM

Lie?

Politicians lie all of the time.

If a politician told us the truth - all of the truth, all of the time. And told us what we NEEDED to hear, not what we want to hear.....

He/She couldn't get elected to City Council.

We do not elect truthful politicians. Period.

Most of America wants things - given to them. For the past 60-80 years it's been the politicians that GIVE AWAY the most things that are elected. That's why we're in debt. "Free" healthcare (no such thing), Tax Cuts,... it's all the same game.

Anyone here who believes Obama or Hillary or McCain always tells the truth and tells you what you NEED to hear.... is a fool.

Seeing as how our last few presidents included Bush and Clinton, there are a LOT of fools out there.

Ster of CO @ Feb 29, 2008 16:00:11 PM

Obama the mouthpiece

What we're seeing here is Obama's lack of expertise on most of the critical issues that face this country, and how that void is so rapidly and expediently filled by whichever off-the-shelf position will most easily gain him backing from whoever he's trying to buy at the time.

We can expect to see more of this should the man be elected; he'll be a puppet of the pressure groups.

I'm as sick as the next American of George Bush's attempts at public speaking, which seem to have been on a long downhill slide since the days he wiped Ann Richards off the map in Texas, but to elect a man whose sole qualification for office is that he's a first-rate mouthpiece is taking things too far.

J Miller of CA @ Feb 29, 2008 15:55:43 PM

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