Cheryl of WA, you hit it on the head about all the Rethugs posting their hot air all over this board. Actually, I'd like to hit them all in the head with a dose of reality..something many are sadly lacking.
Before Dubya and the Rethugs in Congress ran this country into the black hole, we had a surplus due to the intelligent folk in the Clinton Administration. For the last eight years, the dunderheads on the right preached that our country could afford TWO or more wars PLUS tax cuts for the top 2%. Who was stupid enough to actually believe anything from Rummy, Darth Cheney & Dubya? Blame it on the lazy, uninformed American voters, believers of trickle-down/voodoo economics.
Obama has only been in office for less than 6 weeks and the morons are belly-aching about the debt..the travesty of it all! Your buddy Bush left us with that smoking turd...and don't you blame it on the new guy.
Max
of OH
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Mar 03, 2009 21:45:46 PM
250k+ earners
I'm 42. I've worked my whole life. I started mowing lawns at 13 and have never taken more than a couple of weeks off. I studied hard, got reasonable grades, went to college, studied hard, got reasonable grades, landed an entry level job on Wall St. as a systems analyst and have spent the last 20 years working my way up the corporate ladder. I finally make over 250k/yr (at least in the good years). I'm not bragging but I'm not apologizing for it either. Aside from working hard, I have been self-reliant, conserved, saved, and gone without to get to where I am today. I believe in working hard and in capitalism. I believe if you are honest and work hard you should reap the benefits. I don't believe there should be an arbitrary fiscal line drawn that says I should pay more than my fair share. I believe many government programs are necessary and that we should help the misfortunate but not the lazy or deliberately stupid. I am proud to pay my taxes but am outraged that Obama and the Democratic congress are turning this country into a Socialist's mecca and are now spending and looking to tax not only my future but my kids as well. If you haven't worked for it, and can't afford it, then don't buy it. That's life. Deal with it! Stop asking for MORE of my money because you spent yours!
RC
of NY
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Feb 26, 2009 10:03:18 AM
or maybe...
a home!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqRyh65Cfc
Bularki Ramos
of AL
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Feb 24, 2009 10:14:37 AM
a lifetime of work and savings down the drain...change is here
Even though many worked and saved and invested for retirement they now have experienced incredible losses. They are too old to recover. What was to be the golden years has turned inta a nightmare that was unimaginable.
This isn't left or right. It is everyone.
Now they view the prospect of paying for imprudent or ignorant investors....their neighbors mortgage on the homes that are further dragging down the value of the homes thay live in. While still paying thier mortgages and taxes they will now subsidize the jerks who will be bailed out of their mortgages as well as the fat cats in Finance.
They can't sell our homes for what they owe on them let alone what they cost them. Despite this, they must pay ever increasing taxes to subsidize the immense pork of this administration. It is turning the USA into a socialist third world country in one generation on the backs of those who built it. Amazingly people still approve of it. Many because they expect to GET money, health care, schooling from the minority who are losing their life savings.
If you had little you will have more. If you are young you can wait for stocks and homes to be so cheap that they can be purchased again with no loss. If you have a job you can weather this with little effort and hope to buy when all assets have depreciated. Great way to get votes. It is buying future votes from the illegals and ignoramuses to ensure it will continue to be elected by the unaware as long as it gives them a few hundred dollars. Tell them the Wall Street guys are going to pay. Check out who actually owns most of the depreciated assets...stocks and homes.
If you had something you already have a lot less if you dare to look.
The aging and now middle agers should expect that they will be let to die sooner because we will be too old to qualify for the health care that so many voted for. The illegals and their children will get a lot.
The racial rabble rousers even now try to make this racial or class warfare. They wouldn't defend Condi Rice.
Bail out the auto industry (well actually NOT...just the big 3 in Detroit...well actually the union who voted for these idiots) ... uh noone rescued the tech industry and the big companies who let hundreds of thousands go an shut their doors.
This will all collapse very soon. This country is just about ruined and may literally never recover.
Keep blaming Bush... listen to the media. Follow the inexperienced never had a job tax evaders. Pray we don't suffer another attack, hurricane, or international crisis.
Change is here....really here. What a mess.
Joe
of PA
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Feb 23, 2009 18:29:51 PM
Govt money.
I agree with Paul of Tn. Let the banks and auto industry fail. When my construction company failed I didn't ask for govt help. When I had to sell my farm and had 2 houses forclosed on. I didn't go to Washington with my hand out. When they repoed my mercedes I did fly to Washington for help. That's LIFE and everyone (Americans) needs to live with our means. Stop using so much Credit.
Ern
of TX
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Feb 23, 2009 17:36:42 PM
Free Money?
Our new president is just as naive as all politicans and just as ignorant about how most of us live our daily lives.
I know a lot of people overspent on housing but we did not and now are having to pay for the ones who did.
Sue Jenkins
of GA
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Feb 23, 2009 16:35:42 PM
Totally nutty
This bill is political show biz on the part of the new administration. There is no such thing as FREE money and we will pay a terrible price for this lousy piece of legislation which NO ONE read in its entirety. I thougt that this legislation was supposed to appear on the internet for 5 days so that we'd (the taxpaying public) would have a chance to review it before it was 'passed' by the tax and spend members of Congress. What a crock!
P.J. Wilson
of MI
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Feb 23, 2009 15:58:45 PM
RE: No one can outspend the republicans
Both Dems and Repubs are responsible. Take another look, try Barney, Dodd and Pelosi. All who claimed nothing was wrong with Fannie and Freddie. You might say Bush put us 4 Tril in debt in 8 yrs, but the Big "O" has managed over a tril in 2 months. Do the math.
No hate talk, just facts. Granted he has a monumental task, but seems he doesn't want to listen to anyone but his cronies.
This is our money "We the People". And this will be our bill.
As for the stimulus it will do nothing for me, nothing!!!!!!!
I'll just be paying for those who get something. As far as I'm concerned, it is the raping of America and all the folks that did the right thing.
Just wait till he starts taxing small business, the so called wealthy, ( who pay more taxes, employ people) we are headed for inflation and taxation beyond belief.
Chloe Teaf
of TX
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Feb 23, 2009 15:56:15 PM
Stock market fall
Under Obama the stock market has fallen to its lowest in years!!
Last figu8re was down 2000 points since Obama was elected...
It has dropped even more!!
Where is Obama s birth certificate!!?
JM MacFarlane
of FL
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Feb 23, 2009 15:53:09 PM
In a pen stroke our future was changed forever!
It's actually worse than we expected! How on earth can a person come to power complaining all the way there...How much money was waisted on a usless war on the backs of the unborn Americans...And with in thirty days of his inageration, double the national debt on a pure one hundered percent pork bill?!
The people that know are now saying it was not a mear 848 (LOL)billion, we were told...Now after they have actually READ the bill...The cost has now sky-rocketed up to 1.3 Trllion dollars(YES KIDS..THAT'S TRILLION WITH A "T" ).
When China and Japen say NO WAY, we will no longer be buy your debt...We will just be printing worthless dollars...You think it's bad now??? Just wait! You have seen nothing yet.
We can't buy our way out of this folks! They must fail!!
These bail outs will not work!
By the way, if you think America just can't be brought down from stupidity like this...Think again! We are not bullet proof!
Kimberly Palmer, senior editor for U.S. News & World Report, writes about how to save money, avoid scams, manage debt, and be a savvy shopper. Send your personal finance questions to her for expert money advice.
Max of OH @ Mar 03, 2009 21:45:46 PM
RC of NY @ Feb 26, 2009 10:03:18 AM
Bularki Ramos of AL @ Feb 24, 2009 10:14:37 AM
Joe of PA @ Feb 23, 2009 18:29:51 PM
Ern of TX @ Feb 23, 2009 17:36:42 PM
Sue Jenkins of GA @ Feb 23, 2009 16:35:42 PM
P.J. Wilson of MI @ Feb 23, 2009 15:58:45 PM
Chloe Teaf of TX @ Feb 23, 2009 15:56:15 PM
JM MacFarlane of FL @ Feb 23, 2009 15:53:09 PM
Doug of CA @ Feb 23, 2009 13:26:28 PM
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