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Tipping During a Recession Debate Continues

By Kimberly Palmer

Posted: December 19, 2008

I've received several angry emails over the last few days from readers who say my tipping logic is flawed. Before turning the floor over to one of them, I want to clarify something.

I did not mean to imply that anyone who can't afford a 20 percent tip should stay home. While 20 percent tip on the pre-tax amount of a restaurant meal has become standard, it is also generous, and not in any way obligatory. Tipping 15 percent is still acceptable. While I believe consumers should consider tips part of the cost of going out -- after all, those waiters and bussers are working hard -- I don't think you need to stay home if you can only swing a 15 percent tip. I'm sure the restaurant owners will still appreciate your business.

And now, here is the message from Nick:

I really like your articles but the NPR piece on tipping on Dec. 16 really agitated me!

I can't believe you'd condone people not patronizing their favorite restaurants and bars because they can't afford a 20 percent tip to the bar tender and/or wait staff.

And...let's be frank, 20 percent is ridiculously high. That is the tip for excellent service, not standard service.

I have my favorite watering holes and restaurants here in Seattle and while the wait staff and bar tenders are RARELY the same month-to-month, my local faves remain.

Oh, I bet they always report those tips on their taxes too and pay the over 30 percent tax rate that I do on my salary. HAHA! Get real!

I always tip and will continue to but I really think your piece sent the wrong message that we as non-alpha consumers are obligated to tip.

Before you go feeling too sorry for me, I'll let you know that my wife was one of the 533,000 folks who lost their job in November and the last thing anyone should be doing is making people feel guilty about going out to have a drink or a meal beacuse they can't pay an exorbinant tip.

Long story short : It's OK for folks in the service industry to work harder for tips because we out in the working world are also working harder to keep our salaries and jobs.

Now it's your turn to chime in -- do you agree with Nick?

Agree with "Know How To Tip"

I was also angered by the comments made in "Quality of service = Amount of tip." People in the service industry DO NOT usually get paid by their employers - they rely completely on tips. And, actually, I do think that you should only go out to places you can afford (I practice this motto). In my mind, tipping is part of the entire deal, so if you can't afford the tip then you probably shouldn't be there in the first place. Go to a restaurant that is less expensive or a bar that doesn't charge quite as much for its drinks...whatever the choices may be, tipping is part of the service industry in the U.S. and should be counted as a part of the entire experience.

I find myself continually frustrated with people who come into restaurants, demand attention and perfect service, then feel it is ok to walk out of a restaurant leaving a 15% tip. Have a small amount of empathy towards the person who is waiting on your table/section of the bar. You may never know when you are in that position (anyone lost a job?!). Bottom line, if you can't tip right, stay HOME.

M of MA @ Jul 22, 2009 12:44:59 PM

To Sally of NY

Keep your ghetto, unclassy self home. I'm sure we could spot your cheap a** a mile away. You should be embarrassed to be so openly trashy.

Miriam of FL @ Jul 16, 2009 11:35:18 AM

Know how to tip

I am a full time server and full time student and reading all this makes me sick to my stomach. Although some people may think that the business is responsible for paying servers hourly, the fact is, THEY DON'T! Most service businesses don't. I do not expect 20% tips on every single table, I understand that that is a generous tip, and 15% is acceptable. But your comment of 'stop tipping alltogether in protest' is ridiculous, and my response to this is, if you don't have the class or money to tip when you go out to eat, stop going. I respect and value my customers, I am not 'entitled'. Despite your personal feelings, servers run around, bite their tongue, smile, and try to make impossible guests happy in hopes of a generous tip. If you don't like it, stay the hell home.

Miriam Mahmoud of FL @ Jul 16, 2009 11:32:56 AM

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Kimberly Palmer, senior editor for U.S. News & World Report, writes about how to save money, avoid scams, manage debt, and be a savvy shopper. Send your personal finance questions to her for expert money advice.


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