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Guesmunddum of AL @ Jun 15, 2009 11:13:07 AM

special rights.. not even close

Many gay couples have more love than any straight couple could ever have. They are getting a right in their life taken away based on only their sexual orietation. They need the benefits as well as any straight person. This is supposed to be a free country correct? Then why is it so hard to be free to be with who you would like, even if it means someone of the same sex. I myself am interested in the same sex. I have a more amazing relationship than I ever had with any guy. I should be allowed to get the benifits, but because of people like you, I have to work twice as hard for them, only because I am gay. Think about it.

Alisha of IL @ Nov 18, 2008 13:19:40 PM

Special Rights vs. Equal Rights

It is silly to say, "Gay people have the same right to marry someone of the opposite sex as anyone else." and then call that "equal rights." Here's the kicker: Straight people have the right to enjoy legal, financial and social privileges and responsibilities when they marry the one they LOVE. Gay people do not. THAT is the point. Marriage, unlike your baptism, first communion, bar mitzvah, and other non-secular rites of passage, really does cross over into significant change in legal status. Further, people can achieve the legal status of marriage without being affiliated with any religion. So the idea that "marriage" remains a PURELY religious institution, is untrue. As a legal institution, it must be applied equally. If you don't want Gay people to "get married" then abolish (equalize) all the state and federal socio-economic benefits of marriage, (see above), and be content to celebrate its value within your circle of family and friends, restricting its meaning and importance to remain well within the cloister of your church, synagogue, temple or mosque.

Dr. Q of @ Oct 29, 2008 14:30:16 PM

Just LET them get married!!

People and lawmakers and conservative politicians somehow think that by 'outlawing" or banning gay marriage or trying to make it harder for people to be in gay relationships will somehow stop them from being gay!!! DUH! These people are BORN this way and they can no more change the way they are than someone who is of a certain ethicity can change the way they are.

Yeah, yeah. You could ask, "Well how come some people go through hafl their life in straight relationships and then change...that would mean they're not born that way". First off, that is irrelevant....personal choice regarding sex should not affect anything to do with a persons basic human rights. And second off most of them have always known somewhere inside them that they were gay, even when in straight relationships and marriages.

A person KNOWS when they have homosexual tendencies or bisexual ones, believe me, the same way a straight person knows they are straight.

Bottom line: These folks are human beings like ALL of us. Many in long-term, stable and loving relationships WITH children. We need to offer their families the same benefits of a legal marriage that anyone else who is married has and the safety and SECURITY for those kids to know that they will always have at least one of their parents if something happens to the other one.

I am straight and married, but I can tell you that I do think that gay couples who are in a loving relationship and especially those with children who are providing a wonderful home that those kids might otherwise not have had, should be allowed to marry. Just LET them get married and quit making a big deal about it and then maybe THEY won't make such a big deal about it anymore.

It's only an issue because straight people, religious leaders and politicians continue to make it an issue.

Cindy of FL @ May 16, 2008 08:16:32 AM

Great to see mainstream coverage

Thanks for bringing mainstream attention to Human Rights Campaign's effort. Most people are reasonable, just uninformed, so this kind of coverage is super important to educate the American public on this issue of inequality. Keep up the good work as a journalist!

Ned Friend of WA @ May 03, 2008 16:10:39 PM

Special rights??? Don't make me gag.

Two drunk heterosexuals who just met can stumble into a wedding chapel in Nevada, get married right away and have more legal rights than a gay or lesbian couple that has been together for 20 years. Is that even remotely fair?

Bernard from NYC of NY @ Apr 09, 2008 09:56:41 AM

Gay Marriage

On average U.S. couples spend $28,800 for their wedding. This does not include the cost for a honeymoon, wedding rings, bridal consultants, wedding planners or accommodations for their families & friends.... So how many millions $$$ would Gay couples bring to our economy in the name of love?? In the billions $$$..... :)

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Charlotte of MA @ Apr 09, 2008 08:16:06 AM

why are people so opposed to gay rights

Live and let live, that's what I say, I really don't understand why there are people opposed to letting everyone (gay, straight, blue, green) have the same rights and protections under the law. I thought we went through this already in the civil rights era.

jim of MD @ Apr 09, 2008 08:15:24 AM

why are people so opposed to gay rights

Live and let live, that's what I say, I really don't understand why there are people opposed to letting everyone (gay, straight, blue, green) have the same rights and protections under the law. I thought we went through this already in the civil rights era.

jim of @ Apr 09, 2008 08:15:16 AM

Mr. Bar's "special rights" argument has been heard before

Prior to the Supreme Court ruling on Loving v. Virginia in 1969, which legalized marriage between couples of different races, racist made very similar arguments against mixed race marriages that Thomas Bar has made here.

They argued that the mixed race couples wanted "special rights" to marry someone of a different race (something that NO ONE was allowed to do) when they already had the right to marry a person of the same race just like everyone else.

Interestingly enough they made some other dire predictions that we are seeing made again in the fear mongering hysteria that we are seeing coming from the anti gay marriage brigades. They said that mixed race marriages were contrary to thousands of years of tradition. They said that mixed race marriages were contrary to biblical teachings. They said that mixed race marriages were bad for children. They said mixed race marriages would destroy the sacred institution. They said just about everything that we're hearing today.

They were wrong then and the anti-gay marriage people are wrong today. In the not too distant future we will look back on these spurious anti-gay crusades the same way we look back at the racist dark ages of the 1960's Old South. There is NO doubt about that. The majority of people under the age of 30 are already supportive of marriage equality. The anti-gay older generations will shrink every passing year while the gay supportive ranks will skyrocket more and more every year.

It warms my heart to know that this is true and that there is NOTHING that Thomas Bar, or any of the people like him, can do about it.

Like racists who watched the world change around them, homophobes will find themselves more and more marginalized every passing day. They better get used to it.

Zeke of FL @ Apr 08, 2008 21:55:57 PM

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