Alpha Consumer

Reader's Advice: Stop Buying Lattes

By Kimberly Palmer

Posted: February 6, 2008

When I suggested saving money by taking bubble baths instead of splurging on more expensive indulgences and hosting movie nights for friends instead of paying $10 for theater tickets, it unleashed a torrent of E-mails, many of which were critical about just how decadent Americans' spending habits have become.

"Since when did we become a society that needs common-sense advice spelled out for them?" wrote Stephen Johnson of Brandon, Miss. He says he and his wife own two cars, two motorcycles, and a home, all of which they pay for with their salaries, which adds up to around $5,500 a month, including his military pension and disability pay from his years in the Navy. He says they follow a basic rule: Live within their means.

"We do not live with the misplaced sense of entitlement that seems to have gripped the rest of the nation," he says. They purchased a house they could afford to make a 40 percent down payment on, for example.

Meanwhile, Bruce Wylie of New Jersey wrote to tell me that I seem to be part of the problem, since I have admitted to splurging on coffee and kitchen gadgetry. "Isn't the point of fiscal responsibility to not buy unless we need it? And to save?" He says I should cut down on those lattes and buy my kitchen gear at discount prices on eBay.

I see his point, but the prospect of buying someone else's used soufflé dish doesn't quite have the same appeal to me as getting a shiny new one at Crate & Barrel. I think that as long as I plan my purchases in advance and buy only what I can afford (a new soufflé dish every few years, not every week), then I don't have anything to feel guilty about. Plus, having a well-stocked kitchen lets me follow another money-saving technique: cooking at home.

Coming to Starbucks

What a coincidence! I just went out and got me the cheapest coffee I could find, only to return home and read this article and go "WOW! So I'm mot the only one guilty of surrendering my hard-earned income to some beverage I grew up drinking for free." You see, I'm from Ethiopia -- from the part where coffee was originally discovered. And growing up there, we collected our weekly consumption of coffee from the wilderness. Seriously, in that part of the world coffee grows in the wild. So, I don't remember ever paying a penny for caffeine. However, ever since I got here, there hasn't been a day I skipped a triple-shot latte unless I was really, really busy. And the expense is killing me. It just doesn't make sense to pay that much money for something which mostly grows in the wilderness. But I have to admit, latte is a far cry from what we used to make at home. You have to respect capitalism. It's value-added, day-light robbery!

Samuel of VA @ Sep 13, 2008 13:54:19 PM

"Common Sense" Advice

I find comments or sentences that refer to "we Americans", or any other group, to be meaningless. I feel a certain way, have my own ideas and opinions & I doubt they are shared by all Americans. If "we Americans" lack common sense (CS), b/c "we need to be told how to live," & I occasionally need input, I guess I'm not American, b/c I have scads of CS.

What is "CS,"anyway? Is it like "conventional wisdom," which usually turns out to be wrong? Is it knowing enough not to stick my hand in a flame, or is it being able to live within my means? Lots of people not living within their means don't fully understand that"actions have consequences", but they will learn. Does this mean they have no CS?

Most often,the term "CS" is used to describe a given person's beliefs or opinions that may be uncommon.

Ex: Anyone with CS knows that "God exists & zapped us into existence" or "we evolved from simians."

Or: Anyone with CS knows that blacks are "intellectually inferior" or "great at basketball".

Or: Anyone w/ CS knows that the Iraq war is "a stupid endeavor" or "necessary to defeat terrorism".

You get the picture. You've heard the adage"CS is not common and often isn't sense".

If I define "CS" as the state of knowing & feeling as I do,then anyone who doesn't share my perceptions & knowledge has no "CS".

It would be better to be specific: "White, male American citizens of Norwegian ancestry, who fly fish & earn between $50,000 & $100,000/yr., know that Acme fly fishing rods are the best."

The finding might be that 95% of this group share this view, & among that specific group, one might say that knowing Acme fly-fishing rods are the best if one fly-fishes,would be CS.

But I'll betcha that the American citizen, marathon runner & competitive swimmer, Guadalupe,of Hispanic descent doesn't know or care that Acme is the best.

A white male fly-fisher of Norwegian descent who earns $75,000 might think that Guadalupe doesn't have CS. But when it comes to, say, how to make tamales, she might have tons of CS, but he probably won't.

BTW, I appreciate suggestions like: "Save money by not drinking lattes & by having your friends over for movie night."

I might know this, but sometimes a new angle on old knowledge elicits,"I hadn't thought of it that way."

I don't drink lattes & see maybe three movies a year, but if I did & took 7 kids to the movies every Saturday afternoon, well, those are 2 darn helpful suggestions.

Perhaps I hadn't made the immediate connection between those activities & their high cost, or maybe I had, but don't care. The comment, though, is potentially helpful. Even if I had been drinking lattes with abandon, & paying 4 lots of movies, does that mean I lack CS? I think not.

I have another point of view, being a white female American citizen of Irish descent. I have many potential reasons for why I do or don't do those things. For instance, I may have just won the Lotto, & the cost of movies & lattes is irrelevant.

Anna Freud of OH @ Sep 13, 2008 12:36:22 PM

When I was growing up, my mom would not buy something unless it was on sale and she had a coupon. So what did I do? I clipped coupons like a maniac. Even today when I grocery shop for my apartment, I try to only buy something when it's on sale unless it's something I need like milk or bread. On my college campus, the meal plan was mandatory unless you lived on the on-campus apartments. My roommates and I would pool our money to go grocery shopping and would usually eat family style a few nights a week.

I will admit to going to Starbucks, but I have umpteen million gift cards there so it's not like I'm spending money I don't have.

Veronica of NY @ Feb 09, 2008 17:23:04 PM

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Kimberly Palmer, senior editor for U.S. News & World Report, writes about how to save money, avoid scams, manage debt, and be a savvy shopper. Send your personal finance questions to her for expert money advice.


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