'No Flu Shots for My Kids'

Some moms aren't convinced vaccines are necessary, safe or effective

Posted: October 9, 2009

By Karen Pallarito
HealthDay Reporter

FRIDAY, Oct. 9 (HealthDay News) -- Margaret Park, a mother of five, isn't having her kids vaccinated against seasonal influenza or H1N1 swine flu this year.

Park, a registered dietitian from Manassas Park, Va., is fighting the flu on her own terms -- by making sure that her children eat well, wash their hands frequently, get plenty of sleep and take their "gummies," a multivitamin and a supplement containing vitamin C, zinc and echinacea.

Although public health officials recommend seasonal flu vaccines even for healthy kids, Park doesn't see how her clan, aged 3 to 11, would benefit.

"I'm not convinced that getting it is going to keep you from getting the flu," the 35-year-old explained, noting flu shots don't protect against every possible strain of influenza.

She's particularly leery of the H1N1 vaccine, which manufacturers began shipping this week. "I just think that's being totally rushed," she said.

Park isn't the only skeptic.

Jo-Lynne, 37, a Philadelphia-area mother of three who preferred not to give her last name, has never had a flu shot and doesn't intend to have her two girls get either a seasonal or H1N1 vaccine. She thinks kids get too many vaccines, and like Park, she is choosing to take preventive measures instead.

But she also has a son with asthma who gets a flu shot every year. She plans to abide by his allergist's advice on whether he should have the H1N1 vaccine, too.

In reviewing blog postings on the topic, HealthDay observed wide divisions -- pro and con -- on whether to vaccinate children against the flu.

Some of the main reasons cited included the notion that kids have strong immune systems, so getting the flu would simply bolster them against that strain in the future. Others believed that uptake of the vaccine was in the pharmaceutical manufacturers' -- but not their children's -- best interest. And other parents reasoned that they had never had, or felt they needed, the flu shot, so why should their kids get it?

Research by the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases suggests that many American mothers don't believe it's important to consistently vaccinate their children against the seasonal flu.

That may help explain lagging vaccination rates in the pediatric population.

For the 2008-09 flu season, only 12 percent of 5-to 10-year-olds, 12.7 percent of 11- to 12-year-olds and 9.1 percent of 13- to 18-year-olds were fully vaccinated, according to an analysis by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Vaccination rates were somewhat higher for children aged 6 months to 23 months (28.9 percent) and 2 to 4 years (21.8 percent).

Parents are also divided over the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Only 40 percent plan to have their children vaccinated, according to a poll by C.S. Mott Children's Hospital in Ann Arbor, Mich. In an Associated Press poll, 38 percent of parents said they were unlikely to allow their kids to get the vaccination at school.

Beginning with the 2008-09 flu season, the CDC began recommending seasonal flu vaccine for all children 6 months to 18 years of age, not just those at high risk of flu complications because of chronic health conditions or compromised immune systems. It also recommends the H1N1 vaccine for infants, children and young adults, from 6 months old to 24 years old.

Dr. Lawrence B. Palevsky, a pediatrician with the Northport (N.Y.) Wellness Center and president and co-founder of the Holistic Pediatric Association, said he understands parental concerns.

"The dogmatic view that vaccines are safe and effective is being met with a considerable amount of attention, which is warranted and needed," he said.

Yet government officials and infectious disease experts warn that the flu can make children very sick, cause them to miss school and possibly lead to hospitalization and death.

On average, 100 children die from seasonal flu each year, noted Dr. Carol J. Baker, a professor of pediatrics at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. In 2003-04, a "particularly bad" flu season, 153 children died, and half of them were healthy, she added. Plus, there's real concern about the consequences of H1N1, which has already claimed nearly 50 children, said Baker, who also chairs the Childhood Influenza Immunization Coalition.

Oh well

More vaccine for illegal immigrants who are smarter than this lady. I staffed a flu clinic today, and whoa, non-citizens were the majority of the patients we saw. Smart enough to get the vaccine. Of course it wont protect your kids from every flu strain, but it may just protect them from the one they get exposed to. Its incredible how many "Americans" are forgoing this immunization, but illegal immigrants are lining up eagerly for it. Good for them. Your kid may get sick, but the kids who got it today are grateful for you being a tax paying citizen so *they* could get it. It's truly beyond me why Americans aren't getting immunized. Usually they want to push to the front of the line when it comes to everything. They have an entitlement syndrome when it comes to community health care. My kid will graciously help yours when they miss a week of school because they caught the flu, because mine more than likely won't catch the flu, since I immunize her every year, and this year for two strains. It drives me nuts when moms protect their kids from the wrong things. But hey, more vaccine for me.

Claudia of FL @ Dec 13, 2009 01:11:39 AM

what you need to know that they wont tell you.

For me, the question of whether the vaccine is a good idea is most importantly about safety. The swine flu vaccines contain a number of highly questionable ingredients that have toxicity that is well known. Rats given these ingredients have been shown in studies to suffer increased mortality. These ingredients include squalene and mercury, as well vaccines often have formaldahyde. Squalene triggers a reaction of the body to the injection of the squalene. However, most of the bodies own tissues also contain squalene. The body cannot tell the difference between injected squalene and its own squalene, so begins to attack itself. This cuases various autoimmune diseases. Rats given squalene are shown to develop arthritis and other deabilitating autoimmune diseases. Do you want your children to develop autoimmune diseases? Gulf War Syndrome is believed to have been partially triggered by the use of squalene in vaccine given to soldiers who then suffered an area of devastating autoimmune diseases that ruined their health. Mercury has been linked to autism. There is evidence that is linking mercury in vaccines to increases in autism and harm to children.

The mass media is completely ignoring the numerous studies which document harmful effects of squalene in the swine flu vaccine.

The medical companies wonder why so many people do not want their vaccines. Could it be, just maybe, that they are full of poisons?

How can anyone trust the pharmacuetical companies when they knowingly expose people to these dangerous substances which are known to cause harm, and have such an arrogant attitude about it, and repeatedly lie about the vaccines safety when there is plenty of evidence that the chemicals in the vaccine are extremely dangerous and harmful?

David of FL @ Oct 26, 2009 14:54:01 PM

Kirk Patrick of MA's post

Kirk Patrick of MA took my post, sliced phrases out of it out of context, and gave me a name: "eugenicist."

Trying to reason with such a person is like trying to nail jello to a tree. You can't win.

I did have one poorly written passage that could be interpreted to mean that I want an epidemic to kill all those who have not been vaccinated. What I meant was that a good strong epidemic making many of the non-vaccinated sick (while the vaccinated by and large escape the epidemic), would be one of the most persuasive arguments for vaccines there could be.

Kirk Patrick of MA could have easily seen this, and taken pause, but he is either too lazy or too delusional to do that.

From my work in mental hospitals, I know that someone like the person who twisted the meaning of my post and gave me a new name will very likely never change his/her views because they may very well represent a deep set delusion beyond anyone's reach. They have some sort of profound need to twist reality to suit their emotional illness.

Best advice to that poster: If the doc has prescribed you psychiatric meds, TAKE THEM. Also, take off the foil hat. It does nothing for you.

scintillation of CA @ Oct 24, 2009 00:01:44 AM

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