Student Media Voter Fraud?

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Last year, if you recall, "the u" also cheated by linking every single one of its schools (dozens and dozens) to an automatic vote page for just one school, and that school ended up winning the poll. No one said much of anything.

I agree that the poll has problems with it. And I also agree that the best "blog" poll is the most anticipated contest that the Paper Trail runs. Blogs have really universal appeal.

I'd like to see this problem fixed. There's no way that Ted Dwight's blog for one tiny dorm at Yale can receive so many hits. It's unlikely that the subject matter appeals to that many people outside of Yale to warrant that.

p.s. you have to go through more hoops to leave a comment than you do to vote in that poll, by the way.

just.transcendtal of MA 2:29AM February 16, 2009

I think the reason our number jumped so quickly was because we didn't know about it until Midd Blog and Midd Confessional had links up. When people finally saw the link, they voted. It's that simple.

Midd Student of VT 10:20PM February 11, 2009

Seriously, this poll is whack. Make a new one with actual security. I can't believe the larger blogs are so far behind.

HH of CT 3:31PM February 10, 2009

Why is everyone blaming Middlebury? I understand someone is messing with the polls, but it's rather shortsighted to blame a poll with odd results (way more votes than people) on some unknown figure.

RT of CT 3:28PM February 10, 2009

As a TD Blog Writer, I am dismayed at the ridiculous numbers I keep finding in the polls.

TD's students over the past week have contacted all friends, family, faculty from here and back home, asking them to vote for TD's blog. TD's blog has had articles written about us in Yale and New Haven's newspapers, every TD student's facebook status contains a link to the voting page so that people can vote for TD, each student has emailed everyone on their contact list...we've done literally everything we can to get literally EVERYONE we know to vote for the blog - and furthermore, we've told them to spread the word to THEIR communities and encourage their own friends and families to vote for the blog.

Unfortunately, within the last hour, TD's numbers have shot up 20%. All of TD is shocked and extremely annoyed. It is clear that somebody is trying to sabotage us and make it look like we have been cheating the past week. There needs to be accountability, a tech team that can see when votes come in in large influxes. All votes that may appear artificial (ie, when 2000 votes come in in the span of an hour) should be discounted. Whether they are the artificial votes of TD, MiddBlog, or anyone else. Make this race fair, or have your blog (if not the US News and World Report) lose credibility.

Rek of CO 3:23PM February 10, 2009

It seems that some devious individuals are now trying to illegitimize the TD Blog by running scripts to vote for us. This is exactly what we DON'T want. The TD blog has been getting votes from REAL people, not machines, but now someone is trying to sabotage our effort by writing a script to vote for us.

TD Nation of CT 3:07PM February 10, 2009

I have a bad feeling whoever bumped up MiddBlog so fast did the same to TD this morning to get us disqualified... a gain of almost 13% in one afternoon is extremely surprising. I would like to note that no member of the TD community has used or will use a computer program to achieve victory - we are committed to winning this contest with real votes and real support.

Jordan of CT 2:58PM February 10, 2009

So...

1) It's wrong to cheat

2) US news is dishonest

3) This poll is imbalanced and not a measure of opinion

TT of IN 1:23PM February 10, 2009

After continuing this discussion elsewhere on the internet, I though I would post my additional thoughts here:

It is wrong wrong to run the script I posted (or the ones that were run prior), doing so is known as cheating. My analogy was off. It should have been “Set your shiny gold statue on a busy city sidewalk.” Sure, 10,000 people might be honest and walk by (or vote once), but it just takes one person to reach down (or write a loop) for the prize to be taken from its rightful owners.

My point in posting the script above is to highlight for those who have never written a program or used a command-line environment before how absolutely trivial it is to tell a computer to load a web page repeatedly. (BTW: the script I posted will be easy for the poll administrators to filter out by looking at their server logs, but minimal changes would make that process harder.)

Any online opinion poll that does not have at least some basic security (such a CAPTCHA, email-verification, or just a limited audience of people) is a farce. Whether ‘vote fraud’ was obvious (as in this case of highly inflated numbers) or not, the Paper Trail blog would be dishonest in awarding any honor based on such an insecure poll.

Similarly, it is dishonest journalism to report findings from such a poll on any topic where people would care enough about the results to spend 2 minutes writing a loop. A poll of “What is your favorite color?” would probably be safe from tampering just by disinterest, but “Which truck is better, Ford or Chevy?” is almost guaranteed to result in attempted tampering. Far too often major news organizations publish the results of such insecure online polls while not being honest with readers that these polls are likely to be a complete sham.

It is dishonest (and not justifiable) to cheat. It is also dishonest to claim to measure “opinion” when all that is being measured is how many times a URL was loaded.

AnonyMouse of AL 3:37AM February 10, 2009

Finally someone is speaking intelligently...

Also if the form is supposed to submit POST data, how come it accepts GET data. Are they using a REQUEST variable? Seriously?

I mean at the very least set a daily limit on the number of votes per IP. Or get people to register, I'm sure US news has some random newsletter they'd love to throw in our faces. Even yucky CAPTCHA is reasonable.

Then again, you get what you expect from an anonymous poll with no security. I can't help but see the comedy in all of this. People, if you're going to pour effort into winning a poll, don't make it one that you can vote infinite times on. That's just seeing how many times you can get people to follow a link.

Another person of DC 10:38PM February 09, 2009

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