Wake Forest Makes Test Scores Optional for Applicants

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rjhmeu lvszqxr of AL 9:23AM July 21, 2008

Fire Hatch and his enrollment officers for not having the leadership, savy and talent to follow suit with Harvard, Princeton, Emory, Vanderbilt, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford and all the other high ranking Universities who have what it takes to lead a University high amongst rankings and high in minority status.

Mary of OH 8:56PM May 31, 2008

Harvard has 35% minority status, Northwestern has 33% minority status, Duke has 39% minority status, Emory has 33% minority status, Princeton has 32% minority status, Stanforh has 48% minority status and so on. All the top 20 Universities have high diversity ratios. Mr. Hatch really just wants to dumb down the University to make his job easier.

Mary of 6:14PM May 31, 2008

Our condolences to all those currently at Wake and the Alumni!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill J. of NC 4:01PM May 30, 2008

One of Martha Allen's arguements for droping proficency test requirements was to help bring more freedom of expression to Wake Forest. I must admit, there are few if any students with dreadlocks, few if any students wiht large openly displayed tattoos, few students with facial body piercings. The girls seem to take pride in their appearance on campus. The guys do not wear their pants around their knees. There are no outwardly displays of protest and no students dressing in Goth. It was a traditional, classy, conservative school. I happen to think that it was what made this school so lovely. It was refreshing to be on a campus so full of tradition and Southern Charm. However much I hate to see these traits deminished by her efforts, I am confussed as to how lowering the standared of entry accomplishes that?

Nancy of IL 3:56PM May 30, 2008

Too bad Wake Forest felt the need to break ranks with these Exceptional Universities and join the ranks of all the low ranking little known Universities, who no longer require SAT/ACT scores. Nothing they argued ,to back up their decision, made any sence. Why compare yourself to a college when you are a University. Clearly the GPA score and the Sat score combined show a bigger picture. The two need to be presented as one to get the full academic picture, Acceptance decisions should be made on an individual basis based on these scores as well as other accomplishments such as, but not limited to, mitigating circumstances, language, school district, country of origin, extra ciricular activities, community service, leadership roles etc.
By the way, I went to a public school in an affluent community. I got an A in my language class, because; I left school twice a week to fetch my teacher lunch.
Who is running the show at Wake!

Sue of KY 3:08PM May 30, 2008

Wake argues that lowering admission requirements by dropping Sat/Act scores will increase diversity. Look at the top 25 ranked Universities. They all have a much higher ratio of minorities in their student body than Wake. Many of them have diversity of well over 20%!! These fine Universities obviously see the value in reviewing the whole picture, including SAT/ACT scores when deciding who to admit. Their expert ability to do that is one more good reason why, unlike Wake ,they rank amongst the top 25 in America. Let's be real. Everyone knows that grades are way more subjective than test scores. The two must be considered together in determining ones academic achievemt and their willingness and potential to excell. Exception to that should be made on an individual basis. The only people happy to see test scores dropped are those with inflated grades and low test scores. Lastly, not one University who does not require SAT/ACT scores ranks in the top 100 or anywhere near. Why Wake wants to follow in the footsteps of schools far below its stature, or follow in the footsteps of small colleges (lets compare apples to oranges) is embarrassing! Lastly, the proof is in the pudding. The higher the GPA and SAT/ACT requirements the higher "Universities" rank. And who in their right mind willing to make the sacrafices and do the work required to achieve a high GPA and high SAT score would not want to go to a University with the highest standards possibe not to mention the highest ranking possible. That is their reward. I feel sorry for anyone currently a student at Wake Forest. What a blow to your academic achievements and reputation. Will people always wonder if you went to Wake, because you had low Sat scores? How sad, and embarrassing. The students at Wake should stand up for their right to maintain the high standard of their school. Wake should have made this announcement 4 years out, so the current student body could have been forwarned and not caught or trapped in a school they would never have otherwise considered. All those behind this move should be fired. Wake should hire the kind of talant other highly ranked Universities already have on staff, in order to stay a highly ranked, selective yet diverse University. instead, they threw the baby out with the bath water.

Alice of OH 2:38PM May 30, 2008

Good for you Wake Forest! It is about time that a top-ranked university took such a bold stance for inclusion and fairness. I am proud to see that changes are being made in colleges and universities across the country to foster an open and more welcoming environment for all and not just the privileged few. The SATs have never been able to measure one's character, self-assurance, ingenuity or dogged determination. Yet, these qualities are often present in those who survive and thrive at places like Wake Forest University. Young people who show promise will now have a level playing field. That's progress!

R. Trapp of NY 6:30PM May 29, 2008

Why go through this charade of lowering standards when no standards are really what we are trying to achieve. That will ensure, as it is pointed out, diversity. For those of us who are diverse, I find that quite insulting. Let's do away with all tests, that paperwork, the "boring essays", the interviews, the academic record (which after all has to be measured against the quality level of the school from whence the record came). Let's just be done with it and stop the faux dialog. It is only fair that everyone have a college degree despite not having had the benefit of an education. Still, we will have our few top tier schools with rigorous standards. At the end of the day those students will have a secure niche in the global marketplace, the sciences, politics, international policy, and the usual noteworthy endeavors.

Judy, NYC of NY 12:00AM May 29, 2008