Court Says Yes to English-Only Tests

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Hitler Cosgrove of VA 10:11AM January 09, 2012

hey California! ALL TESTS, EXCEPT ENGLISH, SHOULD BE GIVEN IN AT LEAST TWO LANGUAGES.

Hitler Cosgrove of CA 10:10AM January 09, 2012

Hey California!! All but english tests should be given in at least two languages.

Hitler Cosgrove of CA 10:08AM January 09, 2012

multiple languages should be used in tests

bob of CA 10:04AM January 09, 2012

English is the national language in the United States, therefore anyone who lives in the United States should learn how to speak it read it and write it, even if it is their second language. What the courts decided is right. Do you think that English speaking children learning abroad are given their tests in English? No, they respect and learn the language of the country they are studying in.

K. smith of MA 8:18AM October 08, 2010

im makeing test

alysandra of AZ 2:19PM October 14, 2009

The 14th Amendment says that States must provide equal protection of the laws to everyone. The courts have diluted the original words so that the state can allow unequal treatment when there is a good reason for it. The Supreme Court wobbles between strict scrutiny, especially on race, and mere convenience on aqlmowst every thing else. This Amendment was largely ignored from 1883 ("The Civil Rights Cases") to 1954 (Brown v. Board of Education). Whenever there is a large enough class being discriminated against, the Court tends to pay attention. One or two students speaking an obscure language can be ignored because it is impractical to require tests to be translated (essentially rewritten). "Hispanic" is essentially a racial classification, and in California it is very big. In general, the Court does not allow a state to discriminate on race unless there is no practical alternative. Hawaii was forbidden to discriminate against non-Hawaiian in the election of trustees for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. The state may not intend to discriminate, but it is discriminating. The Supreme Court is so strict on racial discrimination that it has overturned affirmative action plans that favor African-Amricans that lack certain reasons. Thus in the University of Michigan cases it rejected the hard quota plan for undergraduates and upheld a law-school plan that argued many reasons why Michigan lawyers should have a few African-American classmates. This is a federal (14th Amendment) case and will reach the Supreme Court. It could be 6-3 against Californiq. I would imagine that a wise Latina judge will have enormous influence in conference on the case. I would expect her to vote against California, but who can say what she will think on this question. We must wait and see. There are precedents either way.

nihil of HI 4:01PM October 08, 2009

If .. I am in the operating room, and on the table with a sufficient amount of anesthesia to keep me under while the doctor does his thing...

You can darned well bet that the Doc, as well as everyone hovering over my body had better speak the SAME LANGUAGE. At last, theory meets reality.

The same goes for any worthwhile endeavour or strategy. To say that there isn't, or should be, one common frame of reference is utter folly. Multi-cultural is a fantasy,, a hoax. Its logical end has become a disaster. What we should be focusing on is a "Multi-ethnic / Mono-Cultural" society.

I'm not interested in Diversity in the LEAST.. I care not one WHIT about foolishly focusing on things that DIVIDE us. I'm much more interested in focusing on things that Unite us.

Our Imperial Federal Government knows that if they can keep us all apart.. if they can divide us on issues like these.. then they can go about dismantling every other good thing and liberty we hold dear... while we never discuss... because we can't.

Wake up folks..

Mr. Miller of FL 10:16PM September 05, 2009

Mary, you are way too paranoid. I am assuming you are White because Whites are the only ones who see a Black or Hispanic around every corner. Relax and hug a Hispanic today!!

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MisCool of VA: Well most blacks speak English as their native language so I don't see the point of pulling them into the debate except of course to scream your tired old "racism" charges to shut down discussion of the issue. But since you brought it up, black Americans suffer the most from cultural and job displacement brought on by the Spanish-speaking immigrants' refusal to accept our language. Blacks who have lived for generations in parts of California, for instance, can no longer get even minimum-wage burger-flipping jobs because they don't speak Spanish. And they often don't have the resources to learn it.

MaryJ of CA 6:26PM August 24, 2009

Before becoming a teacher I worked in the business world. I found it disturbing to see brand new high school graduates not being able to fill out an application or do simple math. I made a career change and as many people, I thought, what's the problem? why can't kids learn? we didn't have all these programs or accommodations before? why can't kids who speak other languages can't make it? Well, it took being in a classroom and experience teaching and learning (I was a new teacher), to see what was going on. Some kids have the grade level knowledge and they only need to learn the language. It makes sense if you have the background knowledge: you transfer what you know into a new language. Nothing new to learn. But for those who have no formal schooling or who have been skipping school, its a different game. Now imagine you have both in class, those who are literate in their native language and those who are not. Add, those who can speak fluent English, but who are not literate in neither, their native language nor English, and by consequence, they can not comprehend anything they perfectly "decode" in English -and this is true for native speakers too- try to pass an all English test.

It takes being in, and experiencing a classroom, to understand that tests don't give any more information than whatever is we're measuring. In this case, it just tell us we're failing those kids we are supposed "not to leave behind" We're not measuring achievement, we're simply collecting numbers of kids feeling more and more frustrated. Put yourselves in a French, German or Spanish classroom, (assuming that you don't know any of these languages, of course), that's the language you hear all day for instruction. Now take a test in that language. We expect mastery on math, English, science and writing. How would you do? Is the test score an indicator of what YOU know? At best, you lean some "social" language that helps you get by at school.

We're not measuring achievement with standardize testing, but English proficiency. Or do you feel you can pass test given in a language other than your native language, and this score will reflect what you actually know about a subject? How about writing an expository, narrative or persuasive essay?

This is what we're asking non-English native kids to do... everyday...until they drop...

A teacher of IL 9:07AM August 18, 2009

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