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Teachers Offer Conflicting Views on AP Program's Rapid Growth

April 30, 2009 RSS Feed Print

The majority of teachers of Advanced Placement courses are satisfied with the college-prep program but worry that its quality could erode as more and more students—including those who are less prepared or who seek only to boost their college credentials—are allowed to participate in classes, according a new survey.

The survey, commissioned by the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, an education research and advocacy organization in Washington, comes as more high schools across the country are adopting the AP curriculum and a record number of students are taking AP exams. In 2008, 1.6 million high school teens sat for 2.7 million AP exams, a 45 percent increase in students from 2004. (U.S. News uses AP achievement data as a component in its high school rankings.)

Researchers involved in the Fordham survey asked more than 1,000 public school teachers about the effectiveness and popularity of the AP program and found their views to be "highly conflicted." Nearly 9 in 10 teachers praised the coursework and the standardized tests as rigorous and effective, and 8 in 10 teachers said the tests help to motivate and focus students.

But when asked for their views on the popularity of the program, many teachers seemed to suggest that the rigor of AP courses is being compromised by school policies that allow almost any student to enroll. Three quarters of the teachers surveyed believe that their schools are opening up AP classes to more students to improve their ranking and community reputation. Only 29 percent of teachers said that their schools ask for grades or a teacher recommendation before letting a student enroll in an AP class.

Meanwhile, students "appear to be focused on AP for utilitarian or pragmatic reasons, not intellectual reasons," according to most teachers, who said that "more students want their college applications to look better." As a result of these attitudes among students and school leaders, "too many students overestimate their abilities and are in over their heads" in AP courses, 56 percent of teachers said. More than 6 in 10 said that putting some limits on who can enroll would improve the AP program.

The conflicting views of teachers reflect a larger debate in education about how schools can best prepare more students for college. U.S. News has profiled some high schools on its Best High Schools list that require all their students, even those who may not be up to the task, to enroll in at least one AP class. The principals of those schools believe that all students benefit when they are exposed to challenging work, even if not everyone receives a passing score of 3 or higher on the AP test. They see the AP program as an opportunity to motivate and prepare more students for college. Other high school principals believe that opening up AP classes to students who are not prepared for the difficult work only sets them up to fail and damages their self-esteem. Some schools actively discourage capable students who do poorly in an AP class from taking the test.

Trevor Packer, a vice president of the College Board, which administers the Advanced Placement program, said in an interview that the questions raised in the Fordham survey are worth studying. At the moment, he said, the data don't show consistent trends that average mean scores on AP exams have dropped or gone up as more students participate in the program. "AP teachers [in the survey] confirmed that so far the quality of the AP test has not been compromised by their efforts to enroll a greater diversity of students," he said. "But it's important for us to [ask]: At what point will the quality decline if students aren't better prepared for these courses?"

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jebanje of AL 5:36AM May 30, 2010

As a professor that overseas both college courses and high school AP courses (this is the model in our state), I would point out that AP courses are usually not equal to actual college courses.

However, I do think they are worthwhile for high school students and I encourage the overall program of AP courses in the K-12 system as they due serve a function something like a prep course.

The evidence is simple. I have been on committees that oversaw the rewrites of AP college level exams and curriculum used in high school AP systems. Consistently in our field/discipline, the "critical thinking" component expressed through writing was removed, modified or lost entirely when the actual AP material was finalized. The rigor in AP material is usually about 60% of that in an actual college course based on comparing the assessment tools and content guides between college courses and high school AP courses. Skill sets and college level critical thinking plus the lack of a complex collegiate environment are the things missing-that cant be duplicated on a high school campus.

Performance is the other big issue. In our collegiate system, the majority of our AP students that have passed AP courses and exams still struggle in those same courses at the college level. This is hard data to get at but we take a look at students who take AP courses then look at the student performance in college when they decide to major in that discipline. They do not perform any better than students who did not take the AP exam in high school setting. Further, we look at AP students who then signed up for the same course in college, often because of degree requirements in a major. Those students actually performed no better or even worse than students who did not take the AP at all in that subject/course area! Finally it was the critical thinking and skill set area that they struggled in while doing quite well in the content area (here the AP student outperformed the non AP student).

The environment, the course, and the content are not athat teach AP are generally not experienced in collegiate teaching, assessment creation and just dont have a collegiate background of support so vital in the environmental component of learning. Same goes for the students. Not to say there are not many excellent K-12 teachers and students. There certainly are. But you can't really play 8th grade basketball, bring in college level training and some coaching, then call it college level basketball. The environment, developmental level,etc. is crucial.

Still, the AP is generally a step up for the student from average K-12 classes and we encourage it from a collegiate stepping stone model.

Until AP students take the same assessments, in the same environments, and demonstrate the same level of skill sets and critical thinking as other successful college students we must consider the process and the results as somewhat different except in content acquisition.

Christe of CO 2:08PM December 21, 2009

Personally i believe that there should be a testriction on the AP coarse. I think that far to many people are joining AP classes to build up reputation when they end up with a B or C on they general classes. The school administration should have a policy stating that only the student that have accomplished a general class with succes would have the oppetunity to be part of that class. Some student take the AP class because they belive that because they will get an honors point on their GPA they would not try as hard as the can in thet class. They tend to slack and not give their 100%

Adi Zaclli of MI 11:06PM September 08, 2009

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