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U.S. News Holds Annual Meeting With Deans of College Admissions

December 22, 2011 RSS Feed Print

U.S. News editors and staffers met in early December with a cross section of deans of admissions and enrollment management from U.S. colleges to get their input on various education issues and to get feedback on the Best Colleges rankings and methodology. U.S. News has held an annual meeting with an independent advisory board of admissions deans since 1992. As in the past, we found this meeting to be highly beneficial.

Here is a sampling of the topics from this year's meeting:

• What do you think about the methodology changes made in the recently published 2012 Best Colleges rankings?

• Should U.S. News start using the SAT Writing and SAT Essay score as factors used to compute the college rankings?

• Should U.S. News adjust the weight of high school class standing (now has a 6 percent weight and is part of selectivity) in our ranking, since a growing number of high schools don't calculate high school class standing, which is used in college admissions decisions?

• What impact has the economy had on the admissions process?

• In terms of international students coming to the United States, what are some overall trends from the past year?

• What are some of the top mistakes international students make when applying to U.S. schools?

• Do you see the rapid growth in students from China coming to the United States continuing for many years? What is the impact of this trend on your institution?

• What's your school doing in terms of social media? Is it working or not working?

• How, if at all, do you think net price calculators will affect competition among schools, and how do you expect transparency in college costs to continue to evolve?

• Are there other paying for college-related trends/changes you've seen over the past year?

• What roles should parents play once their children are at college?

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Jose Sanchez of CA 11:48PM February 04, 2012

That would be great if you could help explain something to me about the methodology. What is the timeline for when the best high schools are selected each year? As well as the timeline for when the high school counselors are surveyed with regards to university and college rankings? I read somewhere in the methodology that this was done in the spring? What time frame is actually considered the "spring"?

Also, why was the list of high schools published in December 2009, used as the basis for surveying high schools counselors in Spring 2011? Isn't there a data lag there? Wouldn't you use the list of high schools published in December 2010, when surveying high school counselors in Spring 2011?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

Z Kratzer of PA 4:35PM December 29, 2011

Can you give us a sense of how the Deans responded to the first question regarding the rankings methodology? Reading around the web one can quickly get the sense that academics and admissions departments are resolutely opposed to rankings and find their methodologies unfair or not very useful and only participate because they are under negative pressure keep up with the competition (I wrote a piece responding to these types of objections at http://www.collegeconsensus.com/blog/?p=52). Was that the general consensus of the Deans you met with, or did they display different sentiments?

Jeremy Alder of TX 3:11PM December 22, 2011

Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

Robert Morse is director of data research for U.S.News & World Report and has worked at the company since 1976. He develops the methodologies and surveys for the Best Colleges and Best Graduate Schools annual rankings, keeping an eye on higher-education trends to make sure the rankings offer prospective students the best analysis available. Morse Code provides deeper insights into the methodologies and is a forum for commentary and analysis of college, grad, and other rankings.

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