Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

Your Thoughts—and Our Responses—on College Rankings Changes

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In my June 4 blog post, What May Change in Upcoming College Rankings, I discussed some of methodology and presentation changes that U.S. News is considering for the upcoming 2011 edition of the America's Best Colleges rankings.

Here are brief responses to some of the comments I received:

1. Some have questioned whether high school counselors have enough knowledge to rate colleges and wondered why U.S. News thinks their opinions should be included in the rankings. Counselors say that they have a considerable amount of knowledge about the college admissions process and that they have highly informed opinions on many colleges in their region and nationwide. We agree. We think that counselors have enough broad experience and the expertise that is needed to assess the academic quality of colleges and universities, given their role in assisting prospective students and their parents as they make choices about pursuing postsecondary education. U.S. News is also doing this counselor survey to obtain opinions on the relative merits of colleges from a much larger, diverse group of higher education experts than just the college presidents, provosts, and admission deans that we already use—and will continue to use—as part of the rankings. If we add the high school counselor rankings, it would impact the National Universities and Liberal Arts Colleges ranking categories, and we would reduce the weight of academic peer assessment survey, which now accounts for 25 percent of the rankings in those categories.

2. U.S. News is not going to drop the concept of doing peer assessment or including it in the upcoming 2011 edition of the America's Best Colleges rankings. We believe that there is an important need to measure the undergraduate academic reputation of a school relative to its peers. We feel that academic reputation of the school where a new graduate has obtained their degree is a very important factor and that a school's reputation can impact the ability of new college graduates to get that all-important first job or to get into a top graduate school.

3. If we eliminate the "Third Tier" and instead numerically rank 75 percent of the schools in each ranking category, up from 50 percent, U.S. News would also eliminate the term "Tier One" from usnews.com. Dropping the "Third Tier" would mean that the same number of schools would appear in each of the ranking tables. More would be numerically ranked and fewer would be listed alphabetically. There would still be the bottom 25 percent of each category listed alphabetically (now called the "Fourth Tier"), and that group would probably be renamed to something like the "Fourth Quartile." We believe dropping the "Third Tier" would make the rankings less confusing for users. 

4. U.S. News fully understands that if we return "admit yield" to the rankings, some in academia would think it would be a step backward. Many in academia will argue that admit yield can be manipulated through the use of early-decision or early-action programs that have close to a 100 percent yield, and schools wanting to improve their U.S. News rankings, it's argued, would encourage more applicants to use early-decision programs—which could hurt less sophisticated students and those needing financial aid. However, U.S. News believes that colleges change the parameters of their various early-decision or early-action programs for enrollment management reasons, not to improve in the U.S. News rankings.

5. It was suggested that U.S. News add health and wellness rankings. This is an important concept for parents and colleges students. Unfortunately, there are no existing metrics or data that can be used to develop such comparative health and wellness indicators.

[See the current methodology for America's Best Colleges.]

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You can probably get cross-admit numbers from places like http://mathacle.blogspot.com/2010/05/hypsm-cross-admit-raw-data.html and http://college.mychances.net/college-rankings.php

Observer of MA 7:37PM July 19, 2010

High school consulars? lol! this is being totally unfair.

Well, i think private universities should go up!! due to the budget cut issues. friends of mine can not even get into class at UCLA! and they're already behind of 1 year...do you think, this is still a great school? in my opinion, not at all. Why would i go to school where i will be staying 1 more year just to finish up my B.S.

Plus, public schools like CAL & UCLA! you're just a number, they don't care about you unlike USC where they're small classes, you can communicate with the teachers easier & they want you to success by any way.

sam of CA 1:33PM July 16, 2010

It is clear what US News intends to do from these methodology changes: make them much more arbitrary so that they change considerably from year to year to spark a lot of hype. Which, of course, has the obvious consequence that US News can sell more magazines.

Robert Morse is clearly lying right to our faces by saying that he doesn't think that institutions will emphasize ED to increase yield and subsequently their ranking. Anyone with a half a brain can realize that it is in the interest of any institution to do this. Not to mention that the truly high-quality institutions don't have high yields since they are perceived to be difficult (e.g., Chicago, Caltech). But the fact that US News believes prestige to be a more valuable metric than academic quality is indicated through every single one of the newly implemented statistics.

This post is merely a feeble excuse for implementing your clearly flawed policies. I don't even think this is denial - it is flat-out dishonesty, and as a result of this dishonesty, the college admissions process will become much more hectic for high school students. But apparently, US News cares very little for students. After all, when money is at stake, everything is fair game, right, Robert Morse?

Jonathan of IN 6:50PM July 05, 2010

Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

Robert Morse is director of data research for U.S.News & World Report and has worked at the company since 1976. He develops the methodologies and surveys for the Best Colleges and Best Graduate Schools annual rankings, keeping an eye on higher-education trends to make sure the rankings offer prospective students the best analysis available. Morse Code provides deeper insights into the methodologies and is a forum for commentary and analysis of college, grad, and other rankings.

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