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Propecia of AL 1:39AM June 03, 2009

Is the 2010 part-time law ranking methodology meant to be a joke?

Morse spends all this time building up the anticipation of the "all new part-time law rankings" and then flops in the end? I thought the idea was to get an accurate guaging of part-time programs using actual submitted data and not an 8th grade popularity contest.

Hey Bobbo, if you are going to resort to popularity contests (like the dilettante that you are) and ask school admins to "rank up to 15 schools" then (hint) only post the rankings for the top 15 schools! A fifth grader could come up with a better ranking methodology than you. These new rankings are nothing short of disgraceful and I am not referring to any particular school but, rather, the childish methodolgy which detracts from the credibility of all of the rankings in general (if it ever existed).

Shawn Batista of NY 7:01PM April 22, 2009

In the print edition of your 2010 Law School rankings, US News lists the 25th-75th percentile LSAT scores as 162-165. Per the Brooklyn Law website: http://www.brooklaw.edu/admissions/faqs/#scores , see also http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA2047.pdf , these are the numbers for Brooklyn's full time program only, the numbers are 2-3 points lower when using the part-timers, as you do for everyone else. US News also doesn't list Brooklyn's sizable part time program amongst the ranked part time programs.

Whose mistake is this -- US News' or Brooklyn's? It seems a correction to the rankings is in order here.

Miquel of MA 9:21AM April 21, 2009

Your part time ranking methodology for law schools is to have everyone pick 15 schools which are supposed to be the best in the country. Then you use that survey to rank 67 schools. Once you get beyond #20 or so, how is that metholodology valid? Can you really make a judgment on which is the 25th, 45th or 65th best school on that basis? It is like a football ranking if you ask everyone to pick the top 15 schools in the country but you keep ranking at #67 based on a handful of people voting for their alma mater.

Kyle of NJ 9:35AM April 20, 2009

Last year, as you may recall, in the law school rankings in the print edition you listed all the schools tied for 100 in both top 100 and in tier 3, with a notation that the tier three list would start at #105. Then you sent a note of apology to the affected schools that they should not have been listed in tier 3.

Guess what, I just saw the print edition for the 2010 rankings and you did it again. Listed the three schools tied at #100 also in tier 3, while saying the ranking starts at #103. How can you make the same mistake twice?

Kenny of NJ 9:29AM April 20, 2009

Of course the deposits are due after the US News rankings come out. At the very least, the current setup gives neither US News nor the schools much incentive to change. The schools would rather their admissions processes were not ravaged by flocks of students either denying or accepting last-minute, while US News is better off minimalizing the effects that its rankings have within the current admission year. I'm guessing their already dubious relationship with the schools would be further strained if their annual rankings issue had an even more immediate and drastic effect. Since not every prospective law student can afford to put down a deposit everywhere he or she has been accepted, the current set-up does well to mitigate any further potential for self-fulfilling prophecy on US News's part. And exactly how much would you prefer that a mostly irrelevant news organization be allowed to control the destinies of this country's institutions of higher learning, anyway?

T of VA 10:02AM April 15, 2009

Why do the law student commenters think they need to choose their law school based on this year's rankings? As opposed to last year's rankings, or the year before's rankings? You aren't going to graduate for a couple of years, and the rankings will have those similar slight changes between now and then, and throughout your career as a lawyer.

Healthcliff of AZ 9:33AM April 15, 2009

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Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

Robert Morse is director of data research for U.S.News & World Report and has worked at the company since 1976. He develops the methodologies and surveys for the Best Colleges and Best Graduate Schools annual rankings, keeping an eye on higher-education trends to make sure the rankings offer prospective students the best analysis available. Morse Code provides deeper insights into the methodologies and is a forum for commentary and analysis of college, grad, and other rankings.

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