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Getting Some Guidance From Counselors

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High school counselors met with U.S. News.

High school counselors met with U.S. News.

Editors from U.S. News met today with a cross section of high school counselors to get their input on various education issues. We found this meeting highly beneficial and heard many new ideas that we are studying.

The high school counselors who attended were:

  • Shirley Bloomquist, Great Falls, Va.
  • Jayne Fonash, Academy of Science, Sterling, Va.
  • Marjorie Jacobs, SAR Academy, Riverdale, N.Y.
  • Jim Jump, St. Christopher's School, Richmond, Va.
  • Annalee Nissenholtz, Ladue Horton Watkins High School, St. Louis
  • Susan Rexford, West Springfield High School, Springfield, Va.
  • Missy Sanchez, Woodward Academy, Atlanta
  • Brian K. Smith, Baylor School, Chattanooga, Tenn.

Here is a sampling of the topics that were discussed:

• America's Best High Schools rankings—how we did them and how we could improve them, including the possibilities of adding the International Baccalaureate test and creating a separate ranking for open-enrollment high schools

• The impact of the America's Best Colleges rankings on the college search process

• The pros and cons of having high school college counselors being asked to rate colleges

• Is it worth the money to go to an expensive brand-name college instead of a state school?

• Many parents are confused about the impact on them of the new financial aid plans announced by Yale, Harvard, Princeton, and many others. What will they actually pay? What will it mean for the less wealthy schools?

• Why paying for college is such a burden on the middle class

• Has the Virginia Tech tragedy changed views on college safety among applicants?

• The importance of mental health issues, particularly what resources colleges offer and the appeal of those services to many college applicants

• The importance of visiting colleges to help students choose which one best fits them

• College sports and how much more difficult it is to get an athletic scholarship than high school athletes realize

• Why the common application has been a positive force

• Gender differences in colleges admissions: Why is it easier for boys to get in now than girls?

• What are "plus" factors or "hooks" on a student's college application? Do these really give a student an advantage to get in?

• How we can improve the next edition of the America's Best Colleges guidebook? What stories should we add, drop, or do again?

• The Paying for College section: How can we improve it, and what stories should we add (or drop)?

• The U.S. News education website

• What education stories should U.S. News be covering?

• Advanced Placement: Some schools are expanding it; others are dropping it.

• How to deal with widespread cheating in high schools* Should cellphones be allowed in high school?

• Undocumented students and their difficulties in applying and enrolling in colleges

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education,
college admissions

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I'd love to be a part of one of these face-to-face dialogs with professionals who interact with high school students daily in re to post secondary options/plans.

I am the guidance director and sophomore counselor (for students A - K) at a suburban high school of about 2700 students (grades 9 - 12). I have been in secondary since 1974 and truly love what I do and the students with whom I work.

I appreciate any consideration,

Sheila Lenz

Sheila Lenz of SC 7:17PM January 27, 2008

The problem with most paying for college sections, whether they be from US News or someone else, is that they focus on getting money for college after the applications are in. The better approach is to address money issues and financial aid as integral to the initial investigation of a college. Let me give you a basic example. Very few people look to see what percent of need a college will meet when first investigating colleges. Yet this is a crucial factor in how much aid a student might receive. If one college meets 100% of need that will usually be a "better deal" than the college that meets 60% of need, even if the 60% college is the cheaper list price.

There are many other issues that families should consider up front, rather than at the end of the process.

Todd Johnson of MN 3:21PM January 24, 2008

Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

Robert Morse is director of data research for U.S.News & World Report and has worked at the company since 1976. He develops the methodologies and surveys for the Best Colleges and Best Graduate Schools annual rankings, keeping an eye on higher-education trends to make sure the rankings offer prospective students the best analysis available. Morse Code provides deeper insights into the methodologies and is a forum for commentary and analysis of college, grad, and other rankings.

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