Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

What High School Students Really Think of the Rankings

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U.S. News and our chief critic, Lloyd Thacker of the Education Conservancy, apparently now agree on at least one thing that is very important: The U.S. News college rankings aren't what high school students are focusing on or worried about when they are going through the college application process.

Thacker did not mention U.S. News once at his session "College Admissions: What Are Students Learning?" on September 29 at the 2007 annual meeting of the National Association for College Admission Counseling. Instead, he spoke about "how the selective admissions experience is shaping students' attitudes and behaviors" based on the results of a research project conducted by the Education Conservancy. The organization conducted eight focus groups at high schools in Atlanta, Boston, San Francisco, and Chicago (half public and half private high schools) to learn about the views of high-achieving students toward the college admission process.

In these discussions, the students rarely mentioned the U.S. News rankings as a stress factor in the admissions process. Instead, they cited other key factors, such as what they believe is a lack of fairness overall and too much importance placed on the SAT. As a result of the focus groups, it seems, Thacker appears to be changing his emphasis, moving away from criticizing the America's Best Colleges rankings. The fact that high school students aren't focused on the rankings makes complete sense to U.S. News, because we think that students are using the rankings responsibly as just one tool in their college search process.

According to the Education Conservancy study, these were some of the key findings from the high school student focus groups:

1. Students dislike disingenuous college recruiting. Generic marketing materials, college fairs, and information sessions are unappealing and too much like sales pitches. They dislike being encouraged to apply to a college even whey they have no chance of admission.

2. Students feel pressured to do things for the sole purpose of gaining admission, such as participating in extracurricular activities, taking multiple Advanced Placement or International Baccalaureate courses, and engaging in various forms of SAT preparation.

3. Students receive conflicting message from colleges. Colleges say they want well-rounded students, which is discouraging for many students with passions or unique qualities. Colleges also seem to expect students to know their majors and life goals.

4. Students would like to take more courses that interest them but feel that it is a gamble to pursue their true interests.

5. Students believe that colleges cannot, and do not, judge applicants in a fair and objective way.

Let's hope the Education Conservancy now tries to help fix the real issues that affect students.

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My daughter is an 97+ student and did not score as high as she would like on her recent SAT exam. She will be taking it again but said that it is unfair to judge your ranking based on one test. What about all the years of excellance from elementary through High School. Do they count as much as they should.

This goes the same for ACT tests. I can tell you that she works very hard and her goals for life are very much above

the average student.

We recently learned that she has been awarded to be the Salutatorian at her school and we are very proud. But we found out that the student who became the Valdictorian did not take AP classes until her Senior Year. This means to me that the ranking system was not fair and that she took the easy way out for ranking. My daughter cannot believe that all her hard work appears to have been lost and gives her a very disgusting taste in her mouth for the ranking system in general. I am hoping that she will create a Blog or an article to warn all students about the pitfalls that can occur when you paticipate in AP courses.

We did meet with her Principal and Guidance Counselor but I don't think my daughter got the ranking she deserves.

Ed of NY 11:09AM October 14, 2008

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ma795zda of AL 7:48PM August 24, 2008

Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings

Robert Morse is director of data research for U.S.News & World Report and has worked at the company since 1976. He develops the methodologies and surveys for the Best Colleges and Best Graduate Schools annual rankings, keeping an eye on higher-education trends to make sure the rankings offer prospective students the best analysis available. Morse Code provides deeper insights into the methodologies and is a forum for commentary and analysis of college, grad, and other rankings.

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