The J.D.: More Than Just a Degree

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It's just a five-minute walk to the law school from Evans Hall, my on-campus home at the University of California–Berkeley for two years. I came to law from economics, starting my "1L" (first) year just as I began writing my Ph.D. dissertation. I liked that the law was interdisciplinary and that it would encourage me to think about research questions using a variety of methods and with a focus on public policy. I wanted to become a better and more persuasive communicator and a more adept advocate. I also figured that the return on the law degree, in terms of professional flexibility, was pretty good. 

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I got all of the things that I hoped for from law school, and others that I didn't expect. After three years at Berkeley Law, I had a degree, a clearer writing style, greater confidence about public speaking, the ability to read more efficiently, a head full of concepts and facts about the law, honed analytical skills, and an appreciation for the variety of arguments that can be made in the areas where the law is still evolving. And although the demands of law school made it a challenge to find time to work on my dissertation (a collection of essays on what might be called behavioral law and economics), the intellectual environment I found there provided a creative spark for my research that helped move it along. All of these were things that I had bargained for, things that any good law school should provide, and much of what made such a costly investment worthwhile. But I got more from law school than a degree and marketable skills.

One of the most exciting things about UC–Berkeley, in particular, is the extensive engagement that students and faculty have with other world-class departments and scholars. Berkeley Law has 12 different interdisciplinary research centers, each providing a context for legal scholarship to be developed and used to inform contemporary policy debates. Programs at the law school's Center for Law, Business, and the Economy enabled me to engage with scholars doing cutting-edge research, talk with judges and practitioners about the practice of corporate and tax law, and develop relationships with professors, classmates, and graduate students with similar interests. This was not unique to my experience; the range of research centers reflects Berkeley Law's commitment to areas such as intellectual property, environmental law, and social justice.

Berkeley Law also provides extensive course offerings in a variety of fields, which is something that I was grateful for, especially as I began looking for a summer internship during my second year. I was able to take three tax classes before even beginning my internship and five tax classes before I graduated. Being able to take so many classes in a particular area allowed me to figure out what kind of law I wanted to practice and demonstrate my interest in the field to potential employers. It also helped ease the transition into practice.

Lessons learned. In addition to providing these benefits, Berkeley Law surprised me. I had been unaware that law school is also vocational training for a profession and that this requires more than just the rehearsal of marketable skills and knowledge about the law. Lawyers have codes of professional conduct and duties that go well beyond the four corners of the job. I found this aspect both challenging and inspiring. I also developed a greater appreciation for the importance of process and procedure. Lawyers complete forms, file motions and briefs, and draft contracts because that is the way that things get done. I learned that you can't be a good lawyer without mastering procedure. At Berkeley, I had excellent professors in professional responsibility, civil procedure, and tax law to help me learn these lessons.

I am now a tax lawyer at a large New York firm, serving mainly corporate clients and financial institutions. I have exceptional colleagues, and the work is complex and fun. It requires analytic ability, creativity and judgment to operate in new and developing areas of the law, and the ability to efficiently manage process and procedure. Trying to excel in these areas while also living up to the expectations of being a legal professional is a challenge. But Berkeley Law prepared me well, and I have no regrets.

Andrew T. Hayashi graduated from law school in 2008 and is a practicing tax lawyer at Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP.

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The majority of people who have commented on this article were motivated to do so out of their own misfortune-- people who feel they've gotten bad deal out of life and thus feel compelled to vent to the world. Their plight certainly is not representative of law graduates in general. Consider the analogy of restaurant reviews, which contain a disproportionate number of negative reviews for a similar reason-- for usually the consumer who had the worst dining experience is the quickest to write a review whereas the consumer who had a moderate dining experience doesn't even care to take time out of her life to do the same.

A couple of year back, I graduated from a T-40 law school in the top 50% of my class. By no means am I academically exceptional, at least relative to other JDs. Yet, within weeks of graduation, I secured for myself a position in Big Law starting at well over $100K. I find the work challenging, fun, and genuinely rewarding. Apologies for the cliche, but life is what you make of it. Sitting here complaining about your personal shortcomings will certainly not help to bring you success.

Monitcello of NY 11:44PM January 14, 2011

We need good ethical lawyers. If your in Law School particularly family law...if you enter this profession with the goal to help people who need help..then you will succeed. If you go into this to make a ton of money..you may but you wont be unique..I have just spent two years in court for a custody battle where my ex played the continuation game and lets kill the mom financially...well congrats he did..but as we faced trial I got brave, I was broke had everything to lose but let my attorney go and went pro-per. I studied family law day and night and trial rules and armed myself with only 3 months to prepare..I tried to find attornyes who would help me pro-bono they all saw the mess my ex's attorney created and wouldnt touch my case for anything less than 10k. This is my child.I saw the games played in court I knew what my ex sttorney was doing and sadly I had no one who would help me. Not one not one attorney cared a child was facing losing his mother....well I am a fighter and I went court I spoke the truth I called objections when the attorney tried to pull crap I got sustains....I was scared to death but I ended up winning..as a pro-per.

What my point is here...I saw the nasty ugly side of law and games played and how in family law your guilty until proven innocent and no one will help you unless you have deep pockets.

In court during a break a mother was sitting in the audience watching me go through this trial...she was new to the family court her first day in court the same day and I saw her get a raw deal from judge because her ex had an attorney and she didnt. She grabbed my arm eyes desperate and pleaded for me to tell her how I was doing so well....I felt soo bad for her the poor woman has no idea what she is up against...I didnt know what the hell I was doing either I told her I just have been in court for 2 years and have learned as I went. But I will never forget the fear in this mothers eyes who just wants to be with her babies.

Anyone wanting to be a family law attorney...please dedicate a portion of your time to help people who are poor and need representation against the opposing parties who have the money to hire an attorney. Review their case and if you see they are being railroaded then set up a payment plan based on thier income....a waitress cant pay $225 an hour but she can pay something and she deserves legal rep just as much as her corporate 6 figure ex spouse.

Its a shame the legal profession attracts so many people with money as thier motivating factor because if you go into this field with the idea of helping people and making a difference you will win and you will achieve those goals 100%

I am considering law school now and I will have a goal of what I need to make every year (not what i want to make) and I will work in there an amount I can dedicate to pro-bono or sliding scale payments...yep I know its sounds like a pipe dream but I won my first case without a JD.

Michelle of CA 9:22PM January 05, 2011

First, I want to start off by saying that the realities of being a law school graduate do not meet the hype and mystique shown in the media in tv shows like law and order, boston legal, and private practice. I am not saying that all people fail as attorneys (in comparison to the images we see in the media). Rather, I would argue that the majority of law school graduates are not living the lives or achieving the outcomes they were expecting. For most people, the reality of being an attorney in the current economic climate entails struggling in private practice, holding a state position that pays 40-45K, or lining up to receive court appointed cases with dozens of other discouraged attorneys.

The truth of the matter is that our culture places an extremely high value on the law profession which leads to high enrollment numbers in law schools across the country. Now, how many attorneys does society really need and how many job openings are there for the tens of thousands of adults who graduate from law school each year? When you think about these two questions, it is obvious that these structural characteristics are leading to the failure experienced by the majority of law school graduates. It is impractical to place all of the blame on struggling attorneys, although for some of them laziness is the cause, for most of them their failure is due to the lack of job openings and the flooding of the market by law school graduates. It makes no sense to call all struggling attorneys lazy and undeserving especially when you consider that they have spent 7-9 years in college. I empathize with all struggling attorneys who had high hopes for success but are experiencing anything but.

Perhaps my opinions are biased due to having grown up in a border town in Texas that has been hit especially hard by the recession and from having watched my dad and his friends struggle for the past 25 years, but in my opinion being an attorney is probably not the best career choice. For this reason, I decided not to pursue law school and instead am in my third year of a Phd program in sociology. I am determined to spend the next four years convincing my younger brother to pursue a career in the health industry, academia, accounting, engineering, or computer science. I wish all of you considering law school the best of luck but I want you to know that you're fighting an uphill battle and unless you’re sure you are going to graduate in the top 10% of your class of your T-30 law school program or you have favorable social network connections you may want to reconsider your career choice.

David of IA 4:37PM December 12, 2010

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