What's missing from this article is that the average professor teaches 40% less that they did 20 years ago (Harpers Index), more of the work is being done by TA's, thus driving costs up just so professors can publish more.
Perhaps we should force teacher to teach and if universities want to pay their staff to research they can do so without state and federal subsidies.
Ralph Laterskiof NY2:51PM November 15, 2011
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BILL GATESof WA3:57AM October 30, 2011
Because dumb liberals are running the colleges and even though they think they have the best of intentions and they think they are doing good, they're hypocritical minds believe they are entitled to a higher standard of living than everyone else.
Clayton Berryof MT5:47PM October 25, 2011
This sucks. By the time i get to college, ill have to pay a ton, then when im out and in tons of debt, i wont be able to find a job.
Davidof MA7:28PM October 19, 2011
i think that it is vary dumb that the classroom gwets less when you pay more to get in. i also think that if u pay more u should get more in the classroom not less!
tinaof MN11:44AM September 08, 2011
where are the teachers on this matter? why don't they strike in honor of the student's and what the teachers themselves stand for?
Its clear students (and parents) are getting the stiff arm.
students and parents should protest IN THE SCHOOLS distrubting the facilities daily function, NOT in the street.
when student voices are not being considerd, consider action!
shawnof WA11:39PM June 29, 2011
. . . would be to make it a factor in the US News and World Report rankings.
I'm serious. Schools kill themselves over library size and spending per student now trying to game the rankings - if USNWR added a factor that rewarded lower tuition, the top schools would take advantage of that. And where Harvard goes, so follow the others. In my years at undergrad, my school started including construction on "student spending," halved their admission rate, and managed to bring itself up quite a bit. It was hilarious, but sad. If US News would include a factor that favored lower tuition, it would lower education costs for us all. Really, they don't need that fourteenth Vice President of Alumnae Relations and her assistants.
Sof IL12:26AM April 22, 2011
A core problem described here is endemic to all of American society: acceptance of administrative corruption that involves siphoning an increasing, disproportionate and unjustifiable portion of costs into the pockets of top administrators, CEOs, boards and governmental cronies with negative ROI for customers and citizens. Having experienced this one time too many, I now associate all statements "do more with less" with "we are actually embezzling funds and attempting to put the blame on you."
Also, two years later regarding Boyle's predictions about state subsidies: LMAO. Wow was that prediction ever off! Nothing short of a revolution will change the pattern of state subsidy cuts. The next stage is privatization of some public schools as state tuition subsidies approach minimum credible levels. My bet is on Miami University in Ohio being privatized in the next decade (many Ohioans already thought it was private a decade ago!).
Ianof OH5:50PM February 21, 2011
I know families who can easily send their children to
Universities like Duke. And, I know kids who are complaining
how they have to wait to get into a State College
until the classes they seek are available. My niece had to
drop out of San Francisco State this year, and switch to a
Community College, because they didn't have any of the
classes she paid for. (Actually, my brother, her father,
saved one-year's tuition for for each of his three kids) - my
nephew got into a State University, pre-med; with an
additional one-year scholarship paid for and now is on
his own, to lug around huge loans for the remainder of
his schooling..that we all know...loans help kids finish
school. But at what cost!!
It feels like these young adults are now being thrown into a big
pinball machine -- shooting kids into every direction.
They are seeking higher learning from adults who aren't
keeping costs down at their schools on behalf of these
wide-eyed students.
And at the big Universities, I have to say, if you don't
have a 4.0, you might as well go to a community school.
Even Universities are turning their schools into nightmares
for kids to get into, even if they do have the funds from
their wealthier families.
So, what's going on here, really?? Should there be a mad
dash, right out of highschool, to take on huge debts just
like all the adults?? Is that what kids are really learning?
To be in debt like everyone else? Boy-oh-boy!
Yeah, we all need an education, but, at what cost; real or
imagined? It looks like everything and everyone who works
in these systems, wants it all - rather than those who are
just there in attendance to prepare for the "real" world.
If you look around, however, you'll see that teachers haven't
been able to have full-time stints in decades. I know teachers
who have had to drive all over town to get enough part-time
work to even add up to a real teaching stint. Another gal
I know is a great teacher, and can only get substitute
teaching jobs.,.has to wake up at 4AM to see if a job is there
Waiting for her, that day, that week.
So, maybe we have another entirely different problem
in this country of ours -
Teaching and learning go together.
Everything else is icing on the cake. If the reall
monies go for teachers, whether local, community, State or
Universities, and pay them well, all across the board,
then each institution will hav within it's walls,
objectives, built in...
And the thousands and thousands
of young adults who can barely read, and do not know
anything about history before they were even born
tells me one thing...our lack of intelligence to pay
intelligent people well, to pass on intelligence to the
up-and-coming, we may, in the end, succomb
to prior civilizations, like Rome, who are in the past
tense, instead of the present. I hope there is enough
food for thought here.
Am not a grad, but have enough knowledge to help young
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