just appreciate this new bill because if alot us here in iraq come home cannt go to school or get a job for those not saying in trust me we will turn the civilian world upside down, u know wat am talking about, if u did know the country needs us so wat if the country pays more for our best interest.you know what it like to see ur body blown up in peaces and have to take him up, let me say this we are here trying to weedout these bad apple before they reach the state so its in our country best interest to give us wat we need
george bennetof WA10:00AM December 18, 2008
Financial Flop heard around the world. Now with the whole economy in the toilet, I wonder how this is going to alter any proposed plans for corrective measures taken to aid in college tuition for ANY military vets regardless of pre-post 9/11. I've been out since just before 9/11 (that's my birthday too actually). Family and other obligations have kept me from persuing my own interests up to this point. Now that I get a chance to persue my education, I am absolutely frightened at the idea that it won't happen at all. I must understand that we are all in this together though, I like the idea of the University of choice (whichever that be) lowering their cost to veterans. This would be an excellent idea in my opinion. Hopefully it's not a pie in the sky idea though. If the military loses retention because of it, then at least they are not spending all the money it would take to put a student through a 4 year University and possibly housing food at full price. I would love it if they did, but I understand now more than ever that money is not growing on the branches. We need the money in so many places it's not funny at all. The money saved by the military in the joint scratching of backs by the University/Government/Military could be used for bells and whistles on re-enlistment bonuses for those who decide to stay in. All that said, I hope I can go to school at all. This is a bad time for us all, in the finance department as well as hope for a good future.
G.Johnsonof CA9:30PM December 05, 2008
The bitter vets that are against this that are proven wrong and are also wrong in wishing their misery on those who serve in the uniform that they wore. Brotherly kindness would be a first. Taking joy in your fellow service men and womens awarded an education for blood and sacrifice is core of military service. You display none of this and disgrace the uniform. Shame on you!
fellow service memberof 12:39PM September 29, 2008
I have recently separated from active duty Air Force. I have served over ten and a half years and I have deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan, and several aster locations many times. I was one out of five females in the Air Force to fly as a Combat Search and Rescue Flight Engineer, aboard the HH-60G Pave Hawk.
I separated for various reasons, one major reason to finish my schooling. It was very difficult flying in combat and trying to study at the same time.
Since enrolling with the VA, I have realized that the system is very boggled down and not user friendly. I constantly have to call and make sure my paperwork is in check or not misplaced. I also have realized that my benefits are not covering the cost of a full-time student and I am paying out of pocket. I am truly frustrated. I have even tried to apply for Federal Student Grants, with no success.
You would think after serving so much time on active duty, putting my life on the line in combat numerous times, leaving family behind, dedicating my skills and life to the Air Force, I would be able to receive some kind of break for school from the government. The very government I fought to defend.
It tears me up to see the best of the very best, leaving active duty because there is a lack of benefits, poor standards and treatment, and high ops-tempo with no relief in sight for all branches of service. It is no wonder the personnel numbers are crashing. I was one of those best of the best and in a very elite flying position, as a female.
Now I look back and think why did I give so much - for what? Why as a combat veteran, do I have to scrimp for college and try to make ends meat. I have earned the right to further my education, regardless of the cost – period.
Annetteof MI1:45PM June 30, 2008
Is that service members prior to 9-11 had to deal with this. And nothing for them? Only post 9-11. Well golly Gee, I guess if you didnt volunteer in the big one or post 9-11 your volunteerism just aint the same?
Yea, and I get what one poster pointed out, Grandpa do quit your complaining about when the youngster's get adjustments so that we can have a fraction of the opportunity you had when the GI Bill could mean a trip to an Ivy League School.
I have so many complaints about the GI Bill Program. Most of the VA reps dont know much more than I did about the program. Like I was told you couldnt interrupt the process when you have children....Surprise! You can. Of course I actually read this on a VA page quite by accident while searching for something completely unrelated.
This was 3 years after my benefits were suspended after squeezing out my kids. The constant, incorrect letters being sent during midterms and finals about recipient's pay being adjusted 6 months ago, and now you owe them thousands of dollars immediately--and it almost always turns out to NOT be true, but not before you need a defibrulator to jump start your heart when you get the *good news.
That was a lovely trigger I got twice a semester every semester for some unknown reason.
And the idea that they bury us in money so that we could actually put some aside to pay them back anything at all, when nothing could be further from the truth. If I have to sit on it in case I need to pay them back due to their numerical mistakes, then I cant pay my tuition or buy my books, so whats the point in using it? And I went to a tiny college, not some big prestigous State university.
Yea the VA doesnt want you to use that program and they make it clear with every Bureaucratic SNAFU they can contrive to throw in your path, while you inch along trying to complete your education.
And yes I am bitter about this. I make no apologies for a completely appropriate response to an unreasonable and contentious government agency that pretends to want to help U.S. Veterans.
Kayof KS12:00PM June 29, 2008
I really hate that the reason President Bush is against this is because it means the military would have to pony up better re-enlistment bonuses and so forth. What a pompous d*ck. I actually thought of re-enlisting and you know what the government had to offer me? Not a damn thing. And I was trained in an MOS that was hurting for people at the time. . .and still is. They would take me back in a heartbeat (I was told by my recruiter). But guess what? They weren't even giving out bonuses. So don't whine about people wanting to get out and get their education if the benefits increase. Maybe if the government would take care of soldiers in the first place they wouldn't want to find any reason to get out.
Elizabethof AR11:21AM June 29, 2008
Obviously I'm all for whatever the government could give me in terms of financial help. I'm a single mom (the special kind that doesn't get child support). I'm in school full time. I live in a dirt poor county so the cost of living is cheap. I work full time. And I STILL have to enroll in food stamps just to make it every month. Fifteen hundred isn't that much of an increase, but at this point (with gas the way it is) any relief is welcome.
I'm kind of confused as to how any service member would be against more benefits for other service members. I kinda thought we were all on the poverty line together. (In other words: "I ranted right along with you when the government cut your medical benefits, Grandpa. Quit b*tching about my education increase!")
Elizabethof AR11:12AM June 29, 2008
This is long overdue and a small payback to those that serve. the Enlisted military is Middle to lower class and carry the load for the country. If this war is so popular why did I not see Many Harvard or Yale grads in Iraq. To say it is an all volunteer force is not totally true. Many were not allowed to leave and many with 10 or more years do not want to give up a retirement they have worked for.
They should have taxed those making 500k or more. The rich know they wont have to sent their kids to war. Much like the Civil war or Vietnam you could just buy your way out or go to College. A similar path that most Neo conservative republicans took. I am a 23 retired E-9 and am very happy this is close to getting approved. I was told by several leaders in the military that they did not want to approve the transfer of benefits because they knew many would not use the full GI bill and that was built into the funding. Then they would allow transfer to kids or spouse in critical career fields. In essence, using my payment of $1200 into the GI bill fund to act as a reenlistment bounds in critical career fields. my money goes to the kids of SP Ops troops to get them to stay in the military but not my kids. If those that fight the war are so important and the wars are so important then they need support. I was a dedicated republican but no more. when saw the money that is wasted in Iraq in my two tours, it would make you sick. KBR and Hallaburton contractors making outrages wages and charging insane prices for service and young troops making a fraction of that. This is long overdue, and should allow us in the middle to make it to the next level. Thx to Senator Webb, he is the only person really looking out for the troops.
of IL8:49AM June 27, 2008
I'm disappointed that any member of Congress would oppose the bill but not nearly as disappointed as I am that any current/former member of our Armed Forces would oppose the bill.
This bill is the most significant piece of legislation affecting us (vets) since the original GI Bill was introduced and I'm sure it was met with as much opposition as the current proposal. Former service members may not benefit as much as current members under the legislation but the same was certainly true in the 1940s. I'm certain there are vets who served before the original GI Bill was enacted that made the personal sacrifices and paid their own way to college. You must know many of them believed the benefits you receive(d) are gratuitous and unnecessary.
Fall in, vets! This update to the GI Bill is a good thing for us!
Billof SC9:22PM June 26, 2008
As a young Soldier in 1987, I wanted to join the Army to go to college. I did this by buying into the GI Bill. But as time went by and I entered my first re-enlistment window after Desert Storm, I realized that I wanted to try it a little longer. I had gotten married by know and had a son and a daughter. Then you get to the 10 point of your career and have to make a decision. I made the decision to remain on Active Duty to support my family. I still had aspirations of getting a college degree so I decided to start classes while in the Army. After 20 years in the Army and 3 combat tours, I have finally received my College Degree. Not a big deal to a lot of people but to finally get a degree at 41 years of age is a big deal. Now I am faced with the fact that I have a daughter who wants to go to college and I have to a college fund that I have been building up since she was 1 year old. It may be enough to cover 2 years of school. But I have a GI Bill that I will probably no use because I took advantage of other educational programs that enabled me to get my degree without using my GI Bill. I tried to use it several times but was always told by the Army Counselors that I should save it. Now I want to use my GI Bill to send my daughter to college and maybe even my other son who will need it in about 7 years, but I am told that they are not eligible to use it because I am not 100% disable. If I would have know that when the IEDs exploded on me both times, I may have ran toward one of them so that my kids to go to college. But know I am faced with retiring from the Army after 22 years of service and deciding whether to buy a house or send my daughter to college. Maybe the President could pass the Bill that would allow me to use my "PAID FOR" Montgomery GI Bill on my children.
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