Debate Club

Should H-1B Visas Be Easier to Get? >

Abuse of the H-1B Program Is Widespread

H-1B should return to goal of recruiting the best and brightest from around the globe

December 28, 2011

About Norm Matloff:

Dr. Norm Matloff is a professor of computer science at the University of California, Davis. He was formerly a statistics professor at that institution, and is a former Silicon Valley software developer. He has also served as a consultant to industry and government, and as an expert witness in litigation.

The H-1B work visa program should be reduced in scope, not expanded, as the program is fundamentally about cheap labor. Gaping loopholes enable employers to hire tech workers at below-market wages, in full compliance with the law. This has been confirmed repeatedly in statistical studies done in government and academia.

[Illegals Get Choice Of Meat, Fish, Veggies.]

Even Rep. Zoe Lofgren, Congress's most strident advocate of H-1B, admitted that the legally required wages for H-1Bs are well short of market levels. She even said, "We can't have people coming in and undercutting the American educated workforce." Unfortunately, the legislation she has introduced doesn't solve that problem, and unfairly scapegoats the Indian and Indian-American firms. Actually abuse of the program is widespread, including by the mainstream U.S. firms that hire foreign students from American universities. Think of the tax code, which also includes gaping loopholes that are exploited by all the big companies.

Even Vivek Wadhwa, a former tech CEO who advocates liberalization of employment-based green cards, has pointed out, "I know from my experience as a tech CEO that H-1Bs are cheaper than domestic hires. Technically, these workers are supposed to be paid a 'prevailing wage,' but this mechanism is riddled with loopholes."

[Chamber of Commerce, Bloomberg Push Immigration Reform.]

The industry lobbyists claim H-1B is needed to remedy tech labor shortages, but studies by the Department of Commerce, a university science consortium known as the Computing Research Association, the Urban Institute, the National Research Council all failed to confirm the industry claim. Starting salaries for new computer science graduates are up only 3 percent from last year, according to the Natonal Association of Colleges and Employers, and the San Jose Mercury News found that wages for experienced workers in Silicon Valley are also up by only 3 percent. These small increases are certainly not indicative of a shortage.

Worse, Georgetown University researcher Tony Carnevale found that engineering has the slowest wage growth rate of any major occupation group. Not only does that refute the industry shortage claims, but also it shows the impact of the large foreign influx in terms of suppressing wage growth. The congressionally commissioned NRC study came to a similar conclusion.

Former Fed chief Alan Greenspan has actually lauded the wage-growth suppressing effect of H-1B. Even more outrageously, a 1989 National Science Foundation report called for bringing in large numbers of foreign students with the explicit goal of suppressing Ph.D. salary growth. The NSF equally explicitly forecast that the resulting stagnant salaries would drive U.S. citizen and permanent resident students away from doctoral study, which is exactly what has occurred.

[Tech Companies Want More Foreign STEM Workers.]

Much has been written about the number of businesses started by immigrant engineers. That is factual, but it should not surprise anyone—given the large number of immigrant engineers, there should be a lot of immigrant-founded businesses. Note also that many Indian-immigrant businesses are engaged in offshoring work out of the U.S., and that Berkeley's AnnaLee Saxenian found that 29 percent of Chinese-immigrant businesses are merely "PC wholesalers"; these businesses don't innovate or otherwise enhance U.S. tech prowess.

The H-1B program should be returned to the goal Congress had back when it created the predecessor H-1 visa—bringing in "the best and the brightest" from around the globe. But only a small fraction of H-1B workrs are in that league. On the contrary, Rutgers University professor Jenny Hunt's study found that immigrant tech workers are actually significantly less likely to innovate (via patents) than are comparable Americans. My own research has shown that the immigrant engineers are less likely to be doing R&D work than are their American peers.

Tags:
employment,
economy,
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services,
immigration reform
Other Arguments
#1
#2

No — The use of the programs for cheaper labor is substantial and growing

RON HIRA, Associate Professor of Public Policy at Rochester Institute of Technology and Research Associate with the Economic Policy Institute

#3
#5

Yes — H-1B visas are one of our best tools to attract international brain power

TAMAR JACOBY, President of ImmigrationWorks USA and Fellow at the New America Foundation

#6

Yes — The American economy is losing out on people who could launch whole new companies and product lines

JOHN FEINBLATT, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's Chief Policy Adviser and Director of the Partnership for a New American Economy

#7

Yes — Reform H-1B, but don't ignore legitimate needs of American employers

JASON DZUBOW, Immigration Attorney at Dzubow, Sarapu & Pilcher, PLLC

#8

No — America is unique because it turns newcomers into Americans

BRUCE A. MORRISON, Former Chairman of the House of Representatives Subcommittee on Immigration, Claims, and International law

Reader Comments Read all comments (17)

Add Your Thoughts
Your comment will be posted immediately, unless it is spam or contains profanity. For more information, please see our Comments FAQ.

Did you ever consider that there is no way on earth 100,000 H1B's a year could ever account account for 9 percent unemployment in the USA? That makes no sense. No wonder you are unemployed - you are enginerds and you aren't good at math. Blame YOUR government and statism, and the lie that everyone who goes to college is going to be handed sucess on a silver platter. Get a get a job at a bar, start a blog, drive a taxi. You've picked a scapegoat and you have misdiagnosed the problem completely. The problem is the chokehold of big government and the nanny state, and your attitude that because you are American you can circumvent suffering and you are entitled success.

Jack Black 4:34PM March 12, 2012

More about Matloff...

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/pub/RaceRelations/AWNM.html

http://www.arthurhu.com/index/matloff.htm

http://gawker.com/norm-matloff/

popeye of MI 2:08PM January 16, 2012

A top quartile domestic grad from 2002 here, in EE/CS, from a prominent well-known school. Sent out thousands of resumes to tech employers and other employers generally for jobs. Only heard back from a few, had a couple interviews (which weren't really conducted in good faith), and am still unemployed a decade later.

US employers are clearly not even bothering to consider the citizens in their resume queues when they recruit people for jobs. All the guys they've hired in the past decade either were previous interns on OPT and now they're getting them H-1B's. Or people who have been in the industry for 20+ years. Despite the engineering and CS schools being absolutely chock full of Americans studying, in the late 1990s, to take all the exciting jobs created by this new industry.

Why are these employers are even allowed to bring in a single H-1B or OPT without interviewing and doing a good faith consideration of literally *every* candidate with a CS or EE degree that applies?

A decade ago, I thought I would have a nice career ahead of me in the computer sector after all the hard work and study that I put into engineering school. Now I am on the verge of committing suicide, a decade of my life stolen from me and given to H-1B scabs. The number of lives ruined through this nonsense are incalculable. And how on Earth can the H-1B-using employers even know that they can't recruit the talent from the domestic labour pool if they don't even bother looking at more than 1% of the resumes received?

Mark of CA 12:48AM January 05, 2012

About Debate Club

A meeting of the sharpest minds on the day's most important topics, Debate Club brings in the best arguments and lets readers decide which is the most persuasive. Read the arguments, then vote. And be sure to check back often to see who has gotten the most support—and also to see what's being discussed now in the Debate Club.


Have ideas about what the Club should be debating? E-mail it to dclub@usnews.com.


You can also join the debate on Facebook or follow Debate Club on Twitter.

Advertisement
Cartoons
Thomas Jefferson Street Blog
Romney's Bain Experience Wasn't Real American Capitalism

The fact that Bain Capital served to make money for investors, not to create jobs, could endanger Romney.

Why Is Mitt Romney Embracing Birther Donald Trump?

Maybe Trump is Romney's idea of a rich guy that common people can relate to?

Does Barack Obama Actually Want to Be Re-Elected?

The president's lack of enthusiasm jeopardizes his campaign.

3 Reasons Why the Scott Walker Wisconsin Recall Election Matters

Scott Walker is a canary in a coal mine.

The Right's Fixation With 'Vetting' Obama

American voters can use the past four years to judge Obama's qualifications as president

Voters Tuning Out Flood of 2012 Super PAC, Campaign Ads

This will be the year of grassroots voters, not Nielsen families.

Scott Walker's Union Fight Helps Mitt Romney Against Barack Obama

The Wisconsin governor refuses to back down from his opposition to collective bargaining.

Why Is It Only Women Who Need 'Informing' on Reproductive Health?

Men's sexual behavior could also use some "controlling."

Advertisement