Nationally Legal Gay Marriage Puts Churches at Risk

If Congress legalizes gay marriage, it will do so at the cost of traditional marriage

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I don't know why I even bothered to click on someone from NOM, I expected nonsense and was not disappointed. This is no different from the NRA making a living predicting dire consequences and continuously warning about some imagined threat to "your guns." Except NOM makes a living making people fearful that those awful evil gays are "coming for your marriage." Oooo! Scary!

No. Gays and lesbians just want to get married. Everyone else can still get married. Everyone wins, except fear-based organizations like NOM.

Also noting, he starts by saying this societal experiment has NEVER existed in all of human history, yet props up all the rest of the arguments with "experience has shown us that the consequences will be..." Based on what, hotshot?

20 years from now the next generations will look back at these scare-mongers the way we now look at the Klan railing against mixed race marriage.

Neal Hicks of OH 7:27PM December 13, 2012

How can two gays getting married invalidate (or validate) my heterosexual one? Enough is enough. It's time to accept one and other.

Erick of NY 12:57AM August 02, 2012

Correction, I should have proof-read....LGBTI deserve the same "opportunity" as everybody else.

About the church, no law can force a church preside over a wedding. There is a difference between legal marriage and spiritual marriage.

I recently read an article that a gay couple sued a photographer for not wanting to photograph their wedding (or some similar event), and the judge ruled in their favor. I understand the couple may not like it, but the law cannot force that person to accept a job for any reason or make a person do anything. That to me is special treatment under the law and, in my opinion, the small business is missing out on sales and the couple would/should be happy to support a more agreeable person/business.

Corporations I wouldn't see being an encroachment, but only because they have a larger scope and become more of an institution at that point. Incorporation involves a lot of other regulations, so this would just be another. If a person has a problem performing some action then a corporation should have procedures to work around it, not punish either the employee or the customer, or the corporation for that matter.

Austin Jessup of TX 11:32PM June 12, 2012

Hate to break it to you, but gay people will be gay whether anybody else likes it or not, and straight people will be straight whether everybody else is or not. This is an issue that is called for in equality and is no different than racial segregation. The law does not control thoughts, and is not supposed to control our choices, unless those choices infringe upon the rights of others in each and every instance. Laws and government are supposed to protect peoples rights, not allocate them fittingly. If you have a religious stance, that is all well and good, but it does not belong in our law, only morals. Believe you me, as a straight man, I can tell you that gay marriage will not be changing my mind that two guys playing hokey pokey is gross. Having said that, I do not think LGBTI are any less human and should not have the same "opportunity" as everybody else.

"Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to our god alone. I enquire after no man's and trouble none with mine; nor is it given to us in this life to know whether yours or mine, our friend's or our foe's, are exactly the right." - Thomas Jefferson

Yes, it a quote about religion, but sensibly declares that if it is a sin it is subject to God's (any god) accountability, and straight people are wrong for trying to impose on people things that they think others should be or should not be doing. I respect people's choices and I demand the same respect. We just need to allow these people their Creator endowed rights and move on to real issues that affect each and every American equally. I would also like to note that government needs to stop trying to control people's choices and give the states their rights and authorities granted by the Constitution back.

@Felix Wright - They would say the same thing they said about the states long ago trying to deny citizenship to blacks in order to avoid giving them their rights, "What nation have we become?" The federal government does not limit people in any way, much less unequally. Did you know they don't even have the constitutional authority to prohibit drugs? People need to not only read the Constitution, but they need to understand that the government is supposed to protect our rights and provide security.....nothing else. I love this country more than anything, except what this country is supposed to be, a free country.

Austin Jessup of TX 11:17PM June 12, 2012

Out of all that has been said, we as a people need to understand if we keep trying to change our standers in ameria we want have a consitution to govern us, before long ameria will be like ship at sea with out a compass every way you look it all looks the same, yes change what needs to be change. just because a person experienece homosexual desires does that make it normol or accepteble with God or man. The one thing i have come to know, is that people dont no what they need but they can tell you what they want!!!! So i say to my american friends look around is it all begaining to look the same and if it is no that u have lift something grate and or now at the end of nothing ---i wonder what would our forfarther say

Felix Wright of TX 3:09PM May 17, 2012

Firstly, please define what exactly a "traditional marriage" is. For a long time, interracial marriages in the U.S. were considered unorthodox and unacceptable. Also, by not allowing gay marriage, you are creating a separate and (in this case) unequal class of Americans. Sadly, even "gay marriage" states are nothing more than places where you can be issued a marriage license. Gay couples are still denied Federal rights and benefits that their heterosexual counterparts enjoy in marriage. By not allowing gay marriage, you are silently saying that it is acceptable to discriminate against people based on their sexual orientation. In America, everyone is treated equal, so why are gays any different. Also, isn't the government in the hands of the people? Most American citizens today support gay marriage, yet it is not legal in most states and in fact many states place bans on it in the state constitutions behind our backs. What's up with that?

Jacob of DE 4:38PM May 09, 2012

Are you people so blind? It is so wrong that people have a shred of doubt either or not gay marriage should it exist. If everyone was made in the image of god then god made people gay. And when you all get judged in the end for denying gods creation and treating them like the lepers of the Aramaic days you all will be twisting your words and blaming others when without a doubt it was each of you individually that fueled to this hatred, gay marriage should be legal because everyone has the same rights and everyone is a creation who is LOVED under god. If gays are denied marriage can they refuse to pay taxes? If you don't want to give gays marriage rights then you cant pick and choose what rights they do get. Your not god and they're not like the black slaves when they first were brought over....but you treat them like one.

Leah of CA 12:12PM May 03, 2012

people should all have the same rights, no matter who or what they are. i guess gay people shouldn't have to pay taxes either if they can't be treated like an american citizen, huh?

Adam of WY 8:32PM April 03, 2012

"We have no government armed in power capable of contending in human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."

1798, Address to the militia of Massachusetts

Ralph Howarth of IL 10:48PM March 07, 2012

Morality is not the purview of the federal constitution and certainly is not the constitutional definition of "establishment of religion". Homosexual behavior is criminal and immoral across many swathes of religious, cultural, and civil codes and cannot be attributed as an "establishment" of a religious denomination. If you cannot pinpoint a code to a particular church, sect, or other such group, then it ceases to be a constitutional definition of establishment of religion because it is a universal norm. Nothing criminal and immoral can be made normal or acceptable to especially supplant the institution of marriage. And when governments sanction such supplanting, then governments cease to be moral agents.

As for the 14th amendment, that amendment only addresses state laws and U.S. citizenship. Rights of citizenship pertain to rights to vote, et.al. Due Process and Equal Protection are only legal procedural civil rights laws that apply in a court room. They are rights you have to defend yourself in court and the right to sue somebody. That is all. The 14th does not magically apply federal laws to trump state laws. It only assures that a state law is applied equally to all citizens of that state. So all the sophistry here about equal protection does not make criminal sexual behavior magically a right for something that goes so counter to natural rights, and especially that of a natural family in marriage.

Ralph Howarth of IL 10:38PM March 07, 2012

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