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No Shortage of Qualified American STEM Grads

STEM industries have plenty of labor without foreign grads sticking around

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If stem people are sent back they take away jobs along with investment, since outsourcing starts. retain talent here with the condition that they settle here and invest here. millions of lines of code is written by bachelor and master programmers and not by phds.

suresh of KY 7:35AM December 05, 2012

This article tells you what the political and business wonks fail to tell you: that STEM careers are generally lousy and low paying for many years--and that Tech firms who supply the jobs are moving STEM careers over seas for cheaper labor and more markets.

And third--the enless math and science courses to the Ph.D weed out but the most determined--which is probably a good thing for those who don't survive.

The Sage of Wake Forest

George DeMarse of NC 11:45AM November 30, 2012

The third paragraph is logically problematic. First, HP laid off a lot of workers, were they all STEM workers? Second, GE moved one of its research center to Beijing, could it be because that GE could not find enough STEM students to fulfill the positions and due to the lack of STEM　students in the US, the hiring cost is too high?

I stopped reading the rest of your article after the second paragraph.

Shawn of NC 9:20PM November 04, 2012

hahaha the opt is not proof that they dont get kicked out. as hard as the h1b process is and consequently the green card process most employers would rather hire a lesser qualifying us citizen than a highly qualified foreigner ...

uxma of MO 8:49PM November 02, 2012

I totally disagree. Sorry, foreign students are not taking those jobs away. US Citizens usually do not apply for those jobs, either they are not educated enough or those jobs are too hard. Do you know what an H1B (Alien working visa) means? During the H1B application process, the alien has to approve he or she is the best candidate in the US for this job. This has proofed that UC citizens cant do such a job. Foreign students are willing to work hard on their education. Sorry, US Citizens are really lazy! I know I am offending a lot of people here. I am just saying the damn truth. I am a school science teacher, the most diligent students are always immigrants or kids from an immigrant family. It is obviously not the eduction. US Citizens are abusing your own privileges in the education system.

SP of CO 3:38AM September 20, 2012

So what is the going rate for a Congressperson? Would I be able to afford it if I didn't have all this student loan debt from getting my STEM degree?

Lee of TX 4:55PM June 25, 2012

American public have clearly voted here that they want to retain the smart highly educated immigrants.

John Pazoski of AL 11:52PM June 17, 2012

The data is available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the National Center for Education Statistics to PROVE there is NO shortage of STEM graduates for the projected new and replacement needs for the next 10 years.

Even if there were, the jobs could be filled by experienced workers who have been downsized in favor of foreign nationals.

Cee of OK 2:34PM May 30, 2012

Of course there are no shortage, but they are not looking for American workers they want cheap slaves to do their bidding.

Daniel of TX 12:22PM May 29, 2012

Ben Abbott, further to my previous comment, I was able to, in a few instances, track down the actual managers of the positions I applied to at those firms. In a few instances, I was informed that the manager hadn't even received my resume from HR. In other instances, I was informed that the position received literally hundreds, sometimes thousands of resumes from domestic candidates. Firms that can't find and hire domestic engineering candidates can't possibly be making much of an effort. But feel free to prove me wrong by posting the name of your company and a phone number to a real, live, HR person, and I'd be glad to give them a call, fax my resume in, and meet with them for an interview.

Mark P of CA 6:50AM May 28, 2012

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