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Foreign STEM Graduates Are Proven Job Creators

U.S. STEM-educated foreigners should be allowed to stay in the United States

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America needs this bill!

hongbo zhang of VA 9:46PM November 20, 2012

American public have clearly voted here that they want to retain the smart highly educated immigrants.

John Pazoski of AL 11:50PM June 17, 2012

Whoever thinks this will help at all should listen to this short speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Sending these people back to help the poor in their own country is the only way to help the world.

Jim of MI 1:56AM May 30, 2012

Americans are tired of the Mccains,Bushes,Flakes pushing to turn OUR country into something we dont want and didnt ask for.We like our culture and dont want to be a multiculturally sewage pit where our children are lorded over by foreigners we educated and let stay.The populace is waking up! We know jewish interests control and benfit from turning a white,christian nation into a secular,mixed magpie society.Let the immigrants go to africa,asia or south america for a change.or maybe precious israel(which shoots illegals crossing).Flake is just another bought off goyim.

jason rogers of SC 10:59PM May 29, 2012

Too bad.. Arizona has one of the largest unemployment rates in America.. Rep Jeff Flake a Congressman for about 10 years has not repesented the interests of Arizona,, He has co-sponsored 5 bills giving special treatment at taxpayers expense to ILLEGAL ALIANS, ANd he is running for senate this next election.... What a farce,,,,He is being mentored by Sen, McCain another long time lover of ILLEGALS... Too Bad...Too Bad for Arizona and the people of AMerica...

Cas Visminas of AZ 9:11PM May 29, 2012

These votes are completely hacked and skewed by the pro-immigration side. See the associated comment in Daniel Stein's argument (Argument #1 in this series). It even shows you how to vote multiple times. What a joke. The left has to skew data to make it look like Americans aren't about to revolt over our country's give-away citizenship/tax dollars bonanzas.

Melanie Ward of CA 6:45PM May 29, 2012

I've been advising young family members and their friends who have an aptitude for math and science to get an undergraduate degree in engineering as I believe that is the modern liberal arts education, but to enter other fields as a graduate student. A graduate degree in STEM is a prescription for a relatively short, unsatisfying career due to the current U.S.policy of importing many foreign competitors at the Ph.D. level. BTW, the garden variety foreign student in a Ph.D. engineering program at a top 5 school with which I'm familiar is *less* capable than the U.S.-born students and the quality of the latter has declined in the past decade--probably because I'm not the only one advising avoidance.

J. Speaker of PA 1:04PM May 29, 2012

The challenge is having enough talent in the right fields. Is immigration a possible gap filler? Yes. But why do all of these arguments assume there's no domestic talent to entice into these fields?

Or is it just quicker and cheaper to put more band-aids on the problem? Nevermind any other side effects.

John80224 of CO 12:50PM May 29, 2012

Taking one of Mr. Flakes arguments, "According to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, in 2006, this group was responsible for 25.6 percent of all international patents. Additionally, the U.S. Department of Commerce has stated that STEM-related jobs have grown three times as fast as non-STEM jobs in the last 10 years." and evaluating it without the benefit of immediate access to data, I would submit that 74.4 percent of the jobs were NOT submitted by non-foreign STEM graduates. Admittedly, additional evaluation is needed to determine what group may have been responsible for this difference. That type argument alone is insufficient to convince me that we are better off with foreign STEM graduates remaining in the U.S.

Justice A. Manning, P.E. of AL 10:23AM May 29, 2012

Here's hoping the Arizona voters vote FLAKE out!

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Jobs Saved by Congress -- But Perhaps Not for Long

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1602/article_1371.shtml

Here's hoping voters in '12 will support candidates protecting Jobs for American workers!

Congress involved in wage busting!!!

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