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Teachers Paid Much Less Than Their Peers

Manipulate the numbers as you wish, but truth is the profession is shortchanged

November 9, 2011

About Linda Darling-Hammond:

Linda Darling-Hammond is Charles E. Ducommun Professor at Stanford University, where she founded and co-directs the Stanford Center for Opportunity Policy in Education. She was founding executive director of the National Commission on Teaching and America's Future and headed President Obama's Education Policy Transition Team. Her most recent book, The Flat World and Education, examines the U.S. education system in comparison with those of successful countries around the world.

Are American teachers overpaid? Really?!

Ask the average teacher in Colorado earning less than $800 a week, while her counterparts with a comparable level of education and experience bring home over $1,200 a week. Ask the parent of a college student in Michigan why he is trying to talk her into a degree in accounting or engineering rather than teaching middle school math. Heck, ask any of the young people signing up for two-year stints through Teach for America why they are heading for Goldman-Sachs when they leave in year three.

The study that posed this question—presumably with a straight face—could only do so by inflating data on what teachers earn—by including pension costs that are not available to teachers during their working years and are never accessed by about 40 percent of them—and by underestimating the actual hours that teachers work—using "contract hours" rather than the 50-plus hours a week teachers actually spend preparing for classes, grading papers, and communicating with students and parents outside of school hours.

[Read: States Rights at Heart of New 'No Child Left Behind' Debate.]

The truth is that, in a recent OECD study, pay for U.S. teachers ranked near the bottom of the list of participating nations, weighing in at only 60 percent of the wages of other college educated workers. Meanwhile the salaries for teachers in higher-achieving nations like Finland, Sweden, Germany, New Zealand, and Australia were comparable to those of their college-educated peers. Furthermore, teachers in these nations receive high-quality preparation at state expense, while American teachers typically enter a low-paying field with a bundle of debt from having put themselves through school.

Adjusting for differences in the number of weeks worked, a 2011 study by the Economic Policy Institute found that men experience more than a 20 percent penalty for choosing teaching, and women experience a penalty of nearly 7 percent, a sharp drop from the 1960s when pay for teachers was considerably higher and women had fewer options. In 19 states, including Colorado, the wage penalty for teaching is more than 25 percent for both men and women. In no state is teacher pay equal to that of other college graduates.

[Read: The End Is Near for No Child Left Behind.]

What's worse, teachers in high-poverty districts, where the work is harder, the days are longer, the class sizes are larger, and the needs are never-ending, earn about 30 percent less than those in more affluent districts. As a recent study from the Center for American Progress found, unequal school funding means that the teachers taking on the greatest challenges typically do so with the least support. Inadequate and unequal salaries translate into less well-qualified teachers and greater turnover in the schools that serve the neediest students.

This is no way to close the achievement gap. We need to heed the lessons of nations that honor and support their teachers if we ever hope to produce a world-class educational system that serves all our children well.

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Other Arguments
#2

No — It is time to invest in the profession that makes all other professions possible

BARNETT BERRY, President and CEO of the Center for Teaching Quality

#3

No — Comparatively low U.S. salaries shrink pool of high-performing recruits

JACK JENNINGS, Founder and CEO of Center on Education Policy

#4

No — To fix education we must invest in our teachers, not flawed studies

RANDI WEINGARTEN, President of American Federation of Teachers

#5

No — To improve education system, attract higher quality teachers

ANDREAS SCHLEICHER, Special Adviser on Education Policy at the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development

#6
#7

Yes — Choice--not pay--is the key to improving education

ROB PORT, Editor of SayAnythingBlog.com

#8

Yes — Teaching is certainly challenging, but it is not uniquely so

ANDREW G. BIGGS, JASON RICHWINE, Experts at Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute

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Just wondered if any of you (besides Linda D-H have ever been in the teaching profession)? It is fairly obvious that you have never considered the hours put in to what a successful teacher accomplishes in regards to their pay. I believe you would find that it is WELL under minimum wage and hourly most would be appalled that anyone even enters the teaching field for such ridiculously low pay. Many (not in the field) are SADLY misled about the hours teachers keep and their "summers off", but if these same people were aware of the evaluations the state and district put on their teachers you would be overwhelmed. I realize we choose our careers, but I did not choose crabby parents, unrealistic state standards, concepts that are completely unattainable (No Child Left Behind), and others who have NEVER worked with students that aren't where the state claims they should be and who have things going on in their homes that keep them from learning to determine my measly paycheck.

liana of IN 4:24PM November 23, 2011

Of course they are overpaid. You're a teacher, so we know what you will say.6o years ago teachers were underpaid. Not now.

Sid Siegel of FL 10:16PM November 15, 2011

Larry, fortunately money is not my primary motivation for teaching. In fact, for years those in the profession have been so grossly unrewarded in the pay department, nobody goes into teaching for the money. But I'm not complaining. I would rather make crappy pay and do work I know is worthwhile than make millions and do work I find to be meaningless. So I made a decision: make lots of money and wrestle with my conscience for the rest of my life (I saw all kinds of unethical things being done in the name of corporate expediency when I was in the private sector), or be bored out of my skull as a well-paid corporate paper-shuffling drone; or teach and find joy in doing something I believe in and just live with the low pay. I am a part-timer by choice. It also gives me time to pursue my true love, which is writing. Guess what? I also do that largely for free. But a book makes a nice second income, at least for as long as it's selling.

But just because I'm willing and able to make that choice doesn't mean the system of underpaying teachers is right.

Consequently, you miss the point. What we are saying is that there is nothing close to decent pay for teachers. You offered as "proof" to counter our claim your neighbor that you always see at home, suggesting he barely works for a living. What a truck I could drive through that argument. For example, how do you know he isn't independently wealthy and inherited money from his parents? How do you know his wife isn't the one who makes the bulk of the money in that family? Maybe he teaches online courses via Skype and the Internet. That's easily done at home. So when he's home, he is working. That's why I suggested you try talking to him to get the truth rather than making a bunch of assumptions about what he's NOT doing. Fact is, you have no idea, only a bunch of guesses about what he does and about where he gets his money.

In contrast, to counter you, I gave you the specific example of myself--being someone actually in the field, unlike you--and I can attest that my experience is pretty much in line with the experience of all adjunct faculty nationwide. I've taught in three different states, and all four colleges I've taught at exploit adjunct faculty; it's a nationwide practice; some colleges do it less than others, but they all do it because we're cheap labor.

Your quite uninformed response to that is to blame ME for picking the wrong school district--as if that somehow were to support your ludicrous claim that teachers are paid well (except for stupid old me). The school district has nothing to do with it. As I said, the exploitation of adjunct faculty is a nationwide problem. You might try researching the issue.

I also suggest you go back to school and learn what red herrings, hasty generalizations, and ad hominem arguments are. Apparently you missed that day of lecture when you took composition and rhetoric.

Joyce Luck of CA 3:32PM November 10, 2011

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