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Robert Schlesinger

Texas Secession? Perry, One Third of Texans Are Wrong: Texas Can't Secede

April 17, 2009 01:15 PM ET | Robert Schlesinger | Permanent Link | Print

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Secession

I believe it was illegal for the the 13 colonies to rebel too.

Like the others, I'm not really impressed with your thinking. You seem to think that might makes right.

Go back and study some real American History.

If Texas wants to secede it will. The only thing that will stop it is another blood bath that the Federal Government will inflict on innocents.

TEXAS SECESSION

The time for Texas to seceede is not yet here but as the Communistic Obama and ( left wing bleeding heart liberal idiot)Democrats in Washington don't seem to have sense enough to reign in their stupidity and spending the time is fast aproaching where not only Texas but some other states will come to that opinion and action, I believe there was at one time some written agreement about Texas Secession and Abraham lincon sent a letter or Telegram to Texas recognizing the right of Texas to seceede but asking them not to join the CSA ( unfortunately they did join the CSA and them became a belligerant state.

In any case the constitution of the USA does not prohibit a state from seceeding and the Union was wrong under the constitution to not accept the CSA after they seceeded.

In the case of Texas which was a recognized independant nation when it joined then the right to seceed is self evident whether a specific document was executed for that reason or not.

A million man march on Washington DC may be necessary where we leave out pitchforks and guns home but take a good supply of tar and feathers with us, if that dosn't work a second march with 5 million people who take their pitchforks and guns with them will then happen.

Too many of us have been asleep for too long and let the left wing bleeding heart atheast liberals get into too many positions of authority, responsibility and pass laws, they have done this insidously, like termites.

Texas may chose to avoid this mess by seceeding from the Union, we could do a lot better on our own as we have always contributed more to the US than we have recieved back.

This will cause great disruptions and it will be best if it can be avoided,

MAY COMMON SENSE RETURN TO GOVERNMENT AND GET THE POLITIONS BACK TO BEING SUBJECT TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE .

Declaration of Independence

I agree. This America, today, is not what our men and women died to protect. They died to end tyranny in all forms, and what did we do, we elected a tyrannical president. To the author of this article, who is going to stop a state from secedding? You? America was founded on principles and morals. I have never seen a country so close to the verge of self destruction. I guarrentee you, if a state as a good, sound reason to secede, it will. As for robert, you need take your head out from where the sun don't shine, and realize what is going on. Good night and GOD (not allah) Bless.

Secession

Hello?....Hello? Have you ever read the Declaration of Independence? What a Maroon! Bob, you Dumb Mass, how the hell you think the US got started! I am sure if you had asked the King of England, he would have said it was illegal too....lol. Some people!

Indecency

It is, discouraging comes to mind, but more so pathetic that so many Americans have no idea of the power we as citizens have. Regardless of whether or not a law exists covering secession matters not. The fact of the matter remains, America was founded by patriots who went against laws to ensure life, liberty, and freedom. The colonists did not say, 'oh wait no, British law doesn't let us secede,' then packed up their guns and sat at home. No. They went against the tyrants and wage a war of freedom.

Regardless if anyone of you nay sayers agree with it or not, any state that has enough people wanting to do it can and will secede whether DC likes it or not.

As many have noted, the US military *myself included* are not segregated. I may be a NYer by birth but I reside in AZ as a home state and if a time comes that AZ wants to secede I stand with my state over the corrupt jackasses in DC. I do not believe in an oppressive federal government having control over states and state affairs. If a state wants freedom from oppression it is an American duty to allow that state to do so, if the federal government does not allow secession they only set in stone the fact that they are oppressive and tyrannical but completely dislodging freedom from the American vocabulary.

Secession is the outright action of freedom, and if a state believes it needs to secede to maintain freedom....secession it should be.

Declaration of Independence

I suggest the author of this article read the Declaration of Independence. It says that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of the ends of people's unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that "it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. If the author of this article does not agree with the Declaration of Independence then he is un-American. Maybe he should read the founding fathers more.

an historical result ?

I remember that Texas was a confederate state during the secession war ( we don' t talk about American Civil War because it was a struggle between two countries ). I think that is the result of their culture and history and i approve it because right to people to govern themself is a democratic right. So french people are watching the situation with trouble because we don' t approve the reintegration of " rebel " states by force.

entering the union = contract...

...and just like a contract, if one party fells (or can prove) the other is not holding to their end of the contract, the contract is void, end of discussion. The civil war only proved the the north was better prepared for war than the south, not that secession was illegal or not. Besides, what happens if the government becomes nothing more than a tyrannical power orgy, and the people and the individual states are unable to remove those in power? To say that a state can't leave the union is the same implication that the united states is an illegal institution because guess what? The US seceded from britian. So the arguement is moot, and either Texas does have the right to secede, and the US isnt illegal, or Texas doesn't have the right, and the US should be subject to british law, either way, this guy loses.

Lone Star Clown?

Just noticed the last line of this "unbiased article", calling Texas the "Lone Star Clown." Please remember that the British used to laugh at the American colonials, calling them "Yankee Doodles", which equates to "Yankee fools".

I am sure the ridicule will only serve to lessen "the bonds that tie us".

Again, I say go look at the source of all this secessionist talk and you will find it rooted in the unconstitutional usurpation of power within the Halls of Congress in D.C. Those who make the laws are ignoring the highest laws of our land; this IS the problem.

What's the U.S. going to do about it?

Texas has it's own military, it's own industry, oil, seaboard, ports, and funnels more dollars towards D.C. than it gets back. In terms of survivability, Texas would be the equivalent of a European power; even stronger than some.

The question that should be asked is how many states would leave with Texas. Quite a few, I think. Did you know that California and Hawaii have secessionist movements? It is not just the rural states that toss this idea around.

The solution to this secessionist controversy, and a return to increased national unity, is for D.C. to honor the Bill of Rights. If the federal government can hold itself to honoring laws it is bound by, then there should be no need for the states to someday put it in check.

We have a Constitution, yet politicians like Frank Lautenberg, Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Bloomberg, Pelosi and a host of other (Democrats) ignore it; even act against it by presenting and passing unconstitutional legislation or other unconstitutional enforcement-related actions.

Remember, all secessionist talk is eventually rooted to actions in D.C. On election day, I urge all of you to go to the polls and root out some of the chaff in D.C.

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Robert Schlesinger is a deputy editor at U.S. News and World Report and oversees all opinion editorial content. He is the author of White House Ghosts: Presidents and Their Speechwriters.

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