Wednesday, November 11, 2009

Education

Former Student Kills Five at Northern Illinois, then Commits Suicide

February 15, 2008 11:43 AM ET | Alison Go | Permanent Link | Print

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concerning the student that kills, there should be commities that will in be responcible for that, a student can't just come and started shooting like that. there must have been something wrong somewhere. because one the student is an ex-student of the school,then something in wrong somewher.am writen from the piont of view.ples send me mail to if is done.thanks

Ban It All

Ban guns? Why not ban gasoline, propane, and all explosives too? Wouldn't it be wonderful to deny suicidal mass murderers all means of killing innocent people in their signature acts, just by declaring a ban? The act of mass murder itself is banned. It shouldn't happen, but it does. Bans accomplish nothing.

Despite "feels good" psychic rewards, bans will not deter these perpetrators a whit, because they don't address the root cause...mainly depressed, self-centered people who want to end their miserable lives by lashing out at a society that doesn't accomodate their special needs.

Better, early identification of such maladjusted people and intervention to protect society. Child abusers are regularly reported to the police and DCFS by doctors, to alert officials to their danger to defenseless children. Preventive detention and radio collars that set off alarms in gun free zones would more directly reduce the risk to society from potentially violent misfits.

Steve Cazmierczak was discharged early from the military and had been sent to a residential mental facility by his family because he was a "cutter". He stopped taking his meds two weeks before he executed his murderous finale.

Medical privacy considerations prevented his evidently severe condition from being reported to authorities. Meanwhile, not being aware of his condition, his girlfriend considered him a warm-hearted person and his professors loved his academic performance. At least five or six medical experts could have reported his fatal affliiction, but were prevented from doing so by established privacy policy. Va. Tech changed their medical privacy rules. Anyone else ready?

ET-

I completely disagree with you. If parents want religion taught in school then send your child to a private school. Take your own child to church. Why would you impose your religious beliefs upon everybody. Why would you want someone to find God because they HAVE to instead of because they want to. Why cant we expect great moral laws from a democrat are you saying that we can with republicans because they DONT know the meaning of seperation of church and state? I think using your religious background to get ahead is the exact same and trying to pull the race card.

Stricter gun control is my belief. Finding out what makes someone want to take someone elses life or their own wont work. Obviously these people are sick and arent willing to reach out to someone or they would have received the help they needed in the first place.

niu

we need more security at all school we need to have more strict gun laws

The real answer

It's like Chris Rock said- We don't need gun control, we need bullet control".

But shootings such as these will not stop unless this country and it's people return to a belief in God. Say what you will, and believe what you want, but God Almighty IS the only answer whether you believe in Him or not. As long as kids aren't taught about Him in schools, things will only get worse because there will be no convincing them of any moral truths. How can there be any truths with no God? Why is it so horrible for kids to study let alone SEE the ten commandments on a school property. One of which reads Thou shalt not kill?? I mean oh no! What if someone actually followed that phrase- what then?!

Yes, this situation truly is tragic, and I will be praying for the victims, families and community of the area, but no amount of laws can prevent this unless we would actually start regulating morality...And if you think prison is overcrowded now, wait till someone tries to inforce morality laws, which we can't do anyway because who gets to decide what's moral and not? And you certainly can't expect any great moral laws from the government especially if democrats are in charge.

~ET

Get back on track

Jamest guns are not the problem. The problem is that someone would be so messed up in the head that he would want to hurt total strangers. I think that jumping to the "ban all guns" stance when this happens is going in the wrong direction. We need to come together and figure out why some people do this. If someone gets to the point of no return and decides to hurt people it doesn't matter what means they use to achieve it.

We need to get rid of the guns. It is that simple. Either that or we get used to hearing about more shootings everyday.

No profanity, please.

Administrator's note: I realize it's an emotional time, but try to keep these comments clean. Perfectly valid opinions will be (and have been) removed if you indulge in profanity.

It's not too late to return the savor of our salt

Hayden - Wasn't this country built on working hard? Did the Pilgrims, Puritans and other early settlers whine that their burdens were too heavy and that they just needed more free time and some counselors to resolve the hardships of life??? Too much work is not the problem.

The wrong kind of work - that I'd buy. Thank the secular humanists for dumbing us down by piling on meaningless busy work (like psychology or sociology) and removing the depth and wisdom we are meant to gain through education.

These shootings are symptoms of a much bigger disease infecting our nation that some refuse to see and others would never recognize because they don't know History.

The decline and fall of America

Well Karl...

Your comments are as reasoned and expressed with as much compassion as those of any other hate monger. Thanks for the hand of friendship from across the sea.

Millions of my countrymen fought and died to save your country, and I recall very little of this crispy attitude at the time. Things change, don't they?

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