Better Chicken Soup Than HGH?

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I used MAG-10 back when it was legal. The results were amazing. It made my muscles huge and it made me stronger. I use Androgel as a prescription because I have low testostrone and the results are good. I have been able to maintain my muscles and strength.

Yet legitimate use stifled !!

I have a pituitary tumor which makes HGH for me a medical necessity.

I'm shiriveling up and aging prematurely because most HMO's make you jump through hoops for years to get it because, of course they don't want to pay for it.

Since I changed employer and subsequently insurance companies over a year and a half ago my Dr. & I haven't yet been able to get it for me.

Sort of ironic that the pro atheletes that don't need it to survive can get it because they can pay for it.

Perhaps if we made it legal for everyone like asprin the price would go down, we could all afford it and live longer.

Let's stop picking on the atheletes and go after the real villians: the insurance and phamacutical companies.

Why is it in our culture that anything that makes you feel better is illegal ?!

Just keep believing that...

Yes, just keep believing that HGH and steroids in general just dont work... Go ahead. Everyone else knows this is just not the case. These compounds definitely work or athletes would not be using them.

Artificial manipulation of the body is already a mainstay in sports and always will be. In the old days it was amphetamines which they called "go pills". In the 80's and 90's it was anabolic compounds. In the 2000's it appears to be custom tailored compounds that have very short half lifes, add strength without bulk, and help the athlete remain completive longer.

One prediction I have is that in sports you will find athletes playing allot longer than they used to. This is the biggest story of HGH if you ask me, because increased response times and retaining body size longer is what HGH does best.

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The research is correct. I have been taking hgh for over a year in what is considered a small dose (less than 1 iu a day). I can't not jump higher, run faster,or throw a ball farther, but I do feel better. I can't put my finger on the results, in an empirical study my reaction would probably be considered a failure, but subjectively I know I feel better. I have documented gh deficiency and the hgh I take cannot replace it, but it makes me feel better,this I know. There are many people in our society who feel much like me. While it is a strech for me to afford it, I make do. Why not do a long range study. There are people out there who have been taking this stuff for 5,10 years, maybe a few even longer. There truly is no reason for the FDA to stifle sales of hgh. Its the phamacutical companies who are artificially keeping the pricesd high. If the FDA really wanted to improve the health of all Americans they would regulate the use of SUGAR. Think of all the lives saved by this one act.

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HGH does not work???? Yeah right, the next time you see a powerlifter squat the weight of a mini sedan be sure you tell him that. This study only shows how stubborn and dumb researchers can be. For years they have been claiming that steroids and performance enhancers dont work.

Katherine Hobson: Thanks for your comment....but to be fair, the researchers explicitly said that their analysis is limited by the lack of real-world info on the dosages that are being used. They don't purport to describe the effects of HGH as used by weightlifters, sprinters, etc. outside of a lab.

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Why is it in our culture that anything that makes you feel better is illegal ?!

Answer: Christianity. Suffer, darn it!

I use a homeopathic version of HGH for a glandular problem. My docs wanted me to take steroids and antibiotic, but I'm doing this and am much happier as a result. Why is this even an issue for athletes anyway. Don't weight and other training as well as selected foods enhance performance. Is it possible that "the big stink" has more to do with allopathic medicine fighting against anything that lies outside of their monopoly?

Stanford's study Pathetically lacking

Please keep the following in mind when evaluating such nonsense, and please bear with me, it’s really simple.

Simple physics (Newton’s second law) states that force = mass times acceleration (F = ma). With a baseball player, for example, the force (F) with which the bat strikes the ball equals the mass of the bat …..multiplied times ….the acceleration of the bat (ma). More muscle allows one to use a large bat, thus the mass of the bat increases. The increased muscle mass also allows a hitter to accelerate the bat from point A to point B faster.

Both the mass and the acceleration increase, so the force increases and the ball flies out of the park more often, against the wall for a triple, etc. In addition, when one is swinging at pitches one should not swing at because one is caught off balance by a good pitch, etc. one can still recover quicker than normally due to the higher acceleration of the bat to recover and hit the ball.

For this Stanford study and all earlier pronouncements in the nineties by the AMA, et all that HGH and/or steroids don’t boost athletic prowess is pathetically ignorant. The recent articles in Sports Illustrated point this out when they relate that while the AMA, et all were saying such nonsense, the athletes were using more and more because they KNEW it was boosting their prowess on the diamond, football field, etc.

I really would love to see you write an article on this and blast such nonsense as the Stanford study.

PS: I include this technical link just as a footnote. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/acmas2.html

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This research review missed the fundamental issue.

Steroids, HGH, and other performance enhancers do not in and of themselves enhance performance. They simply allow the athlete to recover from or avoid small injuries. Muscle tears, joint pain, tendon, cartalage and ligament damage keep athletes off the playing feild and out of the gym. So called performance enhancers keep athletes on the feild and in the gym by enhancing quick recovery and avoidance of these injuries.

This allows athletes to build muscle and performance uninterupted and much faster than the non-user. If the subjects in the referenced studies were all excercising at the same level then you will see no improvement between those receiving placebos and those receiving enhancers because the enhancers are not being taken advantage of.

Subjects must be allowed to work at their own maximum with and without enhancers and the results then compared before a meaningful conclusion can be reached.

HGH Work or Dont Work?

Of course they work, it just seems like everytime we find something that truly works and it makes us feel great, the government finds a way to make it illegal and they have all these bogus studies to proof them right.

They like to see civilians weak and vulnerable, my friend just came back from the Marines and you wouldnt believe the kind of meds (illegal to us) that they take before combat so that they can withstand the attacks.

I know from a personal experience that HGH works and it is a miracle drug.

If you wanted to protect us from everything that is bad to our health close down all fast food joints which there is usually 1 or 2 for every block in America, sugar, lard, cooking oil and anything that makes Americans obese.

Please leave us athletes who want performance and endurance do our thing and believe it or not we are some of the healthiest people on earth.

HGH Works...Stanford Study is Bad Science

Liu didn't even think about the fact that this drug is intended to keep an athlete working harder by avoiding injury. You don't shot up and sit back and watch TV while your muscles grow.

A proper study would measure the ability to continue excerscises between a set of athletes using the drug and a control group not using the drug.

If you excersise you build muscle....duh! The drugs work just like Ibuprophen. They allow you to recover faster. They keep the athlete excersising.

It is the US government and the religious fenatics in this country that that chooses to keep people from feeling better and living longer. HGH works just like stem cells work. Why make them illegal? Could it be that religion has a place in governing the American people. What ever happened to separation of Chuch and State?

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Do not trust people who have not used the product themselves.

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Interesting story to tell about HGH , when I was eight years old I slammed my finger in the door lost my nail and the docs said it would never fully grow back. Needless to say I was always self conscious about my nail , I would always wear a band aid to cover it up . I started taking HGH when I was 22, after 2 months on it the nail on my finger regenerated . I have a nail on my finger after the docs said it would never grow back. I told my doc it grew back after I took HGH and he laughed .( I have since found a new doc ) and told my that is crazy , he did not believe that I ever lost my nail. If it can make my nail grow back then the prospects of this being a drug that can regenerate the body and organs that are failing should be closely looked at. My supposition is that docs will never come to their senses and prescribe it because it can replace a lot of other meds that do nothing 4 us but mask the symptoms and makes us live with whatever ailment we have.