Bush, Obama, and the Hitler Card

surprized?

why are we shocked at the level bush and the republican party as a whole, will stoop to maintain a republican in the white house? this is modern day politics in america? don't forget that accusations are enough these days. bush can say whatever he wants because he, personally, has nothing to lose but for sen. mccain to stoop so low as to bring barack obamas name into this is sad. this is the republican party's doing. not one mans views. i wish mike bloomberg was running as an independant. he would get my vote because he is a businessman first and would not bend to special interest groups and lobbyists who have a bottomless pocket to reach into and buy what they want for their own gain. we as americans have lost sight of the big picture. our future is uncertain because we cannot stand together as a nation. as a new parent i am very concerned about the direction in which this country is being led. enough with being concerned about foreign policy. we need to start at home in stead of letting the u.n. decide what "we" should be doing

How are you guys so sure Bush was talking about Democrats, let alone Barack Obama? There are several people, including European nations and Republicans, that happen to believe talking to Iranians would be beneficial, so he could've been talking about them. How arrogant that you guys will automatically associate Bush's comments with your candidate and your party.

But, it must be said. Why are you guys so up in a tizzy about Bush's comments? Maybe it's because the shoe fits. The easiest way that Barack Obama could've addressed this issue was to A) either ignore Bush's comments and, if he thought they were addressed to him, have some surrogates address them, but he stay out of the fray or B) agree with the President, but state his reasons why talking to Iran would lead to a successful outcome. By doing A, he would be showing that he is at least trying to practice a different type of politics by staying above the fray and by doing B he would be showing that he is trying to unify the country and providing a new direction (and he wouldn't do it anyway, since giving the President any credit for anything he does is anti-liberal and anti-Democratic). Yet, he decided to do the complete opposite and engage in partisan politics by attacking the President.

And John Mashek...

This is not a "smear" on Barack Obama. Barack Obama said he would meet with Iran without preconditions in the YouTube debate last year and he brags about it on his website. Now here's a "smear": your candidate Barack Obama is wearing a flag lapel pin, trying to play his "patriotism" card. Now, I don't buy into this flag lapel pin crap, but apparently he now is.

Appeasement

As reported in the Washington Post, in 2006 McCain said we we might have to be in contact with Hamas. The Bush administration has been in contact with Iran ever since the 2001 attack. in the 1980's high officials in Ronald Reagan's administration not only talked with Iran, they provided it with weapons. Reagan himself talked with leaders of The Soviet Union and China several times. Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger negotiated with the leaders of both The Soviet Union and China. Bush and McCain are making a transparently phony charge. I expect this from Bush, but not from McCain.

Waah

The mean Bush said someting bad. Boo hoo.

After all the horrible things said about Bush by Democrats, who are they to complain about something like this?

And what he said rings true with a lot of people. Note he didn't even have to mention Obama and everyone assumed that's who he was referring to. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be because everone KNOWS Obama will be a soft appeaser? Yep. That's why.

Stan

Incorrect. No president has ever met directly with a rogue nation. Nixon's situation was different. He was meeting with the Chinese government at the end of the Mao dynasty. Mao and the Republic of China were at a crossroads in their history in which they wanted to normalize relations with the West (on their own), and wanted to be brought in to the international community (on their own). So the Chinese were taking steps to normalize their country. Also, Reagan never, NEVER, talked to either the Soviet Union or China without having adequate backup (after all, peace through strength) and neither president suggested they would ever talk to either country without preconditions. IF Iran were doing this, I don't think anyone would have a problem with a US president meeting with them, and I do believe that Bush put this down as a groundwork (or at least give up nuclear development and begin talks). However, Iran has not wanted to give up its nuclear weapons, have consistently made deflammatory remarks about both the US and Israel, continue to kill US troops, and continues to support terrorist organizations. Now, WHY in the world would you want to talk to someone who continues their bad behavior?

And as mentioned before, if the shoe fits, you must wear it. Obama, in his zeal to win over you left-wing zealots, said something that has given us a prelude to his doctrine, and now you guys are all upset that he might be called out on it. Deal with it, and make your candidate stronger, not weaken him by crying crocodile tears.

Bush comments

This administration and the 6 followers it has left disgust me!

Where there's smoke, there's fire!

This "shock and awe' response by liberal democrats has, I believe, less to do with the appropriateness of the way and place, in which President Bush made the remarks about appeasement, and more to do with the inevitability of Sen. Obama's eventual confrontation with the truth. The speed and force with which the condemnation comes from the Democrat movers and shakers, speaks volumes about the truth spoken by the president.

What more appropriate place, the Israeli Knesset, for President Bush's analogy comparing what was done by the Nazi's in the Holocaust, and Iran's promise to annihilate Israel.

Sen. Obama should get used to it. He will, as you infer, hear this again. Obama spoke in ignorance when he said he would sit down and talk with (appease) Iranian leaders. Hopefully he learned something from the chastisement he received. He should be quiet and listen before he makes foreign policy pronouncements. I have concluded that I have almost as much foreign policy experience as Sen. Obama does. And, I have none.

Hitler card, indeed! President Bush played the Truth card.

Long live diplomacy

I think Americans are in in dire need of education in the successes and principles of diplomacy. Perhaps the problem is that in our education, we learn the subject of History primarily in terms of wars. We have few names for diplomatic victories where wars and death were avoided.

Cleaning One's Own Doorstep First

Looks like even country music stations are upset with Bush attacking an American citizen:

“Currently, 147 country music stations have instituted the [Bush] ban, a number which has been growing by the hour. Clear Channel, a major syndicator to all radio formats across America, is considering the ban, which would increase the numbers significantly and be a major blow to the White House. Several Clear Channel stations have independently instituted their own ban.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/country-radio-stations-sh_b_102147.html

Bush may find his Hitler remarks backfiring even further on him considering his own well documented family history of appeasement, support and money laundering for Hitler.

http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/families/bush-dynasty/bush-family-fortune-from-nazis-dutch-connection.txt

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/012303A.ma.dead.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0925-01http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8783.htm

http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/Bush-Hitler.html

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html