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John Aloysius Farrell

Allow Gay Marriage

November 13, 2008 02:40 PM ET | John Aloysius Farrell | Permanent Link | Print

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well i doubt

gay people care if you don't want gay marriage or have voted against it! I'm not gay, but i believe it should be their personally choice to marry someone of the same sex if that is what is in their heart. who are you to tell them who they can love and marry?

It is perfectly fine, why can't we marry !!!!

what is the difference if it is a man and women or man/man, girl/girl there is really no difference, if you r commited 2 be with the person you love for the rest of ur life so be it....Love is love no matter who it is!!

same-sex marriage

I am currently a high school senior and in gay realtionship.

And my mind is just boggled when people say they need to preserve the traditional way to marry and that it needs to stay between a man and his wife. Who decided that?! when did anyone make the decison that they could determine love. Why is my buissness anyone elses?! If i want to marry my girlfriend paige, how would that affect you. Tell me in what way that occuring would ever PERSONALY AFFECT YOU?!

that all i wanted to know because i don't think

it needs to affect anyones life i think that what happens in

my life behind my closed doors is my buissness yet others think it's theres.

If we the people don't want gay marriage!!!

Then don't go against the will of the people, they have voted overwhelmingly against it. Their are civil unions lets just leave it at that and move on.

How is it different?

How does letting two men or two women share what a man and a woman have demean it in any way, shape or form? Marriage is priceless, it's two people saying that they love each other so much, that they are proclaiming to the entire world that they are in love. If one says that marriage between homosexual couples is destroying social fabric, isn't one saying that their love is not as "good" as heterosexual love? How does someone not homosexual say what that love is like? How does one even know it is different? I love my girlfriend with all my heart; why can't another guy love his same-sex partner the same way? Tell me, married people against gay-marriage, would it really demean, lessen or insult that special bond you share with your loved one, if two people you didn't know - and probably didn't care about - named their love the same?

Civil Marriage

Thank you Mr. Farrell -

My older brother was married five times between his 18th birthday in 1967 and 2001, the year he passed away. Each of his wives received hundreds of government benefits & protections instantly upon saying "I Do" - while gay & lesbian couples in relationships for decades get nothing from most states, and nothing from the federal government. (Actually, gay couples do receive something from "Uncle Sam" - a tax bill for their health care benefits if they are included on their partners' company health plans, a tax not assessed against heterosexual married couples.)

For people who think "civil unions" or "domestic partnerships" are good enough for gays & lesbians, they are wrong. A gay couple married in California was legally married whenever they visited Massachusetts, Connecticut, anywhere in Canada and an increasing number of European countries. A gay couple in California who can only be "domestic partners" are legal strangers when they visit other states and countries, even those that have full marriage equality. This is not equal treatment of its citizens, to say to a minority group: "you are protected -- but if you leave the state for business or pleasure it is at your own risk.

One of the arguments that the "Yes on 8" campaign was that allowing gays to marry violates their religious rights. How is this so? What religious tests are there when one gets married at City Hall? When the California Supreme Court overturned laws that prevented interracial marriages, no churches were forced to perform these ceremonies. Ditto when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the same in the 1960s.

Thus when a Roman Catholic priest refuses to marry a couple because one or both have been divorced, he is not allowed to then trot across the street and stand on the steps at City Hall and say "You can't get married here either." If a conservative church does not wish to marry an interracial couple, or if a orthodox synagogue does not wish to marry an interfaith couple, they have every right to refuse, but our government does not then allow the pastor and rabbi to block these couples from getting married at City Hall.

The irony is especially severe in the instance of the Catholic Church. If two Catholics were married in a civil ceremony, and later divorce, the couple can automatically remarry in the Church without paying for an annulment because the Catholic Church does not recognize the institution of civil marriage. These marriages were never valid to begin with.

If the Catholic church does not recognize civil marriage as valid for heterosexuals, how can they protest the rights of gay people of different faiths to get married at City Hall? By what right does our government say to some citizens, "Your church won't marry you - well, you are welcome here" but to other citizens, "Although many liberal churches will marry you, we won't give you a license because we subscribe to conversative church doctrine regarding gay marriage."

As long as we're backtracking thousands of years...

... let's start stoning people who lie. Let's treat our wives as the personal property they became when we paid their fathers in material goods, in exchange for the transfer of ownership. Isn't that the argument some are making? That a tradition of "thousands of years" should never be changed or adjusted, regardless of how enlightened our society becomes?

Until recently I had stood by quietly as people who didn't know I was gay openly ridiculed a segment of society of which they knew nothing.

No more.

A few weeks before the election here in California, I took part in the effort to preserve my right to marry the person of my choosing. I worked the phones like crazy, hoping to educate people on the subject of Proposition 8, and give them the truth about how it would - or in most cases would NOT - affect their lives.

Now, I've redirected that energy taking action against the most identifiable force behind Proposition 8's success: the hypocrites of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Because of the encouragement of the church "Prophet," some $20 million left the bank accounts of church members, and found its way into the Proposition 8 campaign coffers. It was an incredibly well organized effort on the part of a secretive religion that was more than happy to circulate lies about Proposition 8.

I find it unconscionable that a groups of "religious" people can somehow distort the same-sex marriage "issue" into something that justifies taking away a right that has already been confirmed.

Allow me to say what everyone opposed to same-sex marriage is falling all over themselves trying to AVOID saying. The word "marriage," should only be used in cases where the couple was united in a religious ceremony. The anti-same-sex-marriage lobby is terrified that this dirty little secret could put them on the losing end of a federal court battle. They know that if marriage is officially "recognized" as a religious union their guarantee of separation of Church and State prevent the government from being involved. Specifically, the government could not possibly restrict things like Social Security Survivor Benefits to the person who was "married" to someone who was collecting benefits at the time the benefit recipient died.

For those of you who were in any way instrumental in the passage of California Proposition 8, I have some news that you might find unsettling: One way or the other, this horrendous offensive you began in one state will at some point land in the federal court system. When it does, I'll be the first to pat you on the back and say thanks for sparking a movement that led to the landmark Supreme Court decision to grant equal rights to same-sex couples.

Denial of Gay Marriage

Thank you Mr. Farrell. Your thoughts are eloquent and true.

No Gay Marriage

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!!

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John Aloysius Farrell is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report. An award-winning Washington reporter, he has written for The Boston Globe and The Denver Post and is the author of Tip O’Neill and the Democratic Century and an upcoming biography of the great American defense attorney, Clarence Darrow.

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