Ray Comfort Responds to Genie Scott on Creationist 'Origin of Species'

The evolution scam

Non-living matter has never been observed creating living matter.

Never has a creature been observed giving birth to an entirely new species. Never! It simply does not exist in the fossil record. Nor at any time in recorded history. Therefore, macro-evolution is an unsupported theory at best and a grown man’s fantasy at worst.

Macro-evolution is a fantasy: fish->amphibian->reptile->rodent->ape->human being. No proof.

If macro-evolution were true, there would be as many intermediate species as there are “completed” species in the fossil record. In fact, there would be more intermediate species than “completed,” since “completed” is the final form, but it would take thousands, if not millions, of intermediates to reach the “completed” form. However, proof of intermediates does not exist. What exists is speculation that some creatures may be intermediates due to physical similarities. Again, not proof. There are numerous physical similarities between animals today. Doesn't mean one evolved from the other.

Evolution = FANTASY.

Ah, humour! Ar-ar!

Karl Meyer-Haus, I take it then that you have no scientific critique to offer?

"Origin" is 150

As a professor I discovered something quite remarkable re evolution. As you know, science books often portray mankind's "stages" stretching over a long period of time from a naked, hairy, bent-over, mentally-deficient Neanderthal-type which gradually stands upright more and more until he is standing erect with a 1930's-style haircut. Well, I discovered that someone accidentally reversed that sketch! That's correct! Mankind actually began as the short-haired erect man and gradually became more hairy and bent over and naked etc. until today we can observe the last "stage" at any rock concert! Since I believe in humility I have resisted revealing this astounding discovery until now. Karl Meyer-Haus

Half an eye

Au contraire. Plenty of creatures and cells abound with all kinds of differing sensitivity and reaction to light. That's where eyes started, not with a complete set of rods and cones awaiting a lens. Evolution doesn't build with purpose made cogs to render an engine, because it's NOT designed by an intelligent planner. Comfort misses the basic concept by miles, so we can't expect him to grasp what's present and what's missing in the vast body of work we call evolutionary theory.

Of course, Biblical literalists admit no possibility of error. No chance of evidence making you look silly that way - you just wish the evidence into nonexistence.

Here's your unbiased source

"Accepting the common descent of species, Gingerich is a theistic evolutionist. Therefore, he does not accept metaphysical naturalism, writing that

Most mutations are disasters, but perhaps some inspired few are not. Can mutations be inspired? Here is the ideological watershed, the division between atheistic evolution and theistic evolution, and frankly it lies beyond science to prove the matter one way or the other. Science will not collapse if some practitioners are convinced that occasionally there has been creative input in the long chain of being"

Oh yeah, he's an ASTRONOMER.

Yep, thousands=none

"What kind of nonsense is this. I looked up Talkorigins.org to find Chris's transitional species. They readily admint there are none. See the quote below"

Here you go again, liar. Have you ever told a lie? Then your a liar!

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

"No transitions exist, yet the assumption is made. "

Yeah, Ray comfort would be proud of you!

You misunderstood the theory

Especially in regards to transitional species. A transitional species isn't a half-formed animal, as you seem to think.

Darwin himself only hinted at this, but every offspring has slight genetic changes from its parents, which are now called genetic mutations. A few individuals of a species are born with very harmful mutations, and because it is difficult to live with such harmful defects in nature, these individuals are never to reach adulthood and reproduce. This is the same as humans who are born with genetic disorders.

I don't want to get into the morality of such things, but in the animal world, Darwin's "survival of the fittest" refers to this concept that only the animals who are born without any major genetic problems are able to reproduce and pass along their genes. Obviously there are mutations that can be helpful, such as the story of the evolution of the giraffe's neck. The main theory is that, like humans, all giraffes are of course born with different traits, in this case neck length. Giraffes with slightly longer necks were able to reach higher the leaves in taller tress, and so were more likely to survive into adulthood. After long generations of this there would be noticeably more giraffes with long necks, since they were the ones better equipped to survive.

With random mutations, the longer the neck, the better off a giraffe was. This was such a slow process that there might not be any noticeable difference even after tens of thousands of years. And if the environment around a species doesn't change, then the species as a whole is not likely to have any changes even over millions of years. The whole idea of transitional species refers to the species that have enough changes to differentiate them from their ancestors of hundreds of thousands of years in the past, but hasn't changed enough to call it the same as a descendant that comes hundreds of thousands of years after it. But these transitional species are fully functional (other than those few poor individuals born with harmful genetic abnormalities). As Earth's weather has gone through periods of tremendous changes, species during these periods also go through similarly quick changes.

There are plenty of things to criticize about many specifics of the theory of evolution, but please understand the concepts. Also, when scientists who discovered Ardi said that this idea that we evolved from ancient chimplike creatures is totally and completely wrong, they are talking about the idea that we came from a creature similar to today's monkeys and chimps. They are formulating to a new idea which states that there might have been a ancestor of both humans and chimps that walked upright, but chimps ended up evolving from this ancestor by going back to walking on all fours, since that was beneficial for their jungle environments. They're not criticizing the basics of evolution here. They still believe this ancestor had some chimplike features.

Huh?

BRAD:

"Im sick of evos they are all talk and no action lets do something about them before they ruin society a bit more with there poison."

Your incoherent diatribe reminded me of something I had seen before, in the Creation Science Association for Mid-America vol 25 July 2008 to be precise. And I quote:

"The arrogance displayed by the evolutionist class is totally

unwarrented. The facts warrent the violent expulsion of

all evolutionists from civilized society. I am quite serious that their danger to society is so great that, in a sane society, they would be, at a minimum, denied a vote in the administration of the society, as well as any job where they might influence immature humans, e.g., scout, or youth, leader, teacher and, obviously, professor."

Not only do you seem to share the views of Tom Willis but apparently also his spellchecker. You say you have met a lot of people, I assume only once. Most people I meet, whatever their outlook still hold democracy dear. Not your bag obviously.

KEITH:

You must let me know where I can get hold of some of these evolution inc. shares, they sound like a goer. Bizarre comparison with Microsoft BTW, surely the bible with its incalculable worldwide sales would have been more apt, especially since Christians DO actually employ spin doctors for real, have ten TV channels where I am and are strangely exempt from taxation - now that's popular.

COBBER:

You have correctly noted that life can only exist when conditions are just right, obviously. I can't help feeling that a little study of the order of chickens and eggs might help you with some of your questions.

CHRIS:

I can't believe you missed the sarcasm there

Incredulity is still not an argument

Cobber. This is exactly your problem - your incredulity. What's more, the Big Bang theory deals with the expansion of the universe. This has little to do with the theory of the diversity of biological organisms on Earth.

<<<"I cannot fathom the minds that believe that the multiples of animals,insects,birds,fish,flowers,trees,water,blood,ice,oxygen,and sexual organs all came together with a big bang!">>>

Please do be careful when combining euphemisms in this manner.

<<<"How did the food chain happen at the same time to feed the living creation,water,food ,oxygen,climate ,all had to happen immediately for anything to survive.">>>

It is not necessary for all to be their at the same time, just to be there before life arrived.

<<<"Blood and flesh,lungs and heart, etc. All beating together at an instant.">>>

Is that what happened with you? Or did you develop over a number of months from your beginnings as a single-celled organism?

<<<"Earth at right distance to the Sun which came from the big bang along with Moon ,stars,planets and Universe of 50 billion galaxys.">>>

And in a universe with billions of galaxies and trillions of stars, I'm sure there are many planets out there which "just so happen" to be at the right distance from their stars.

<<<"Come on you evolutionists (evilutionists).Youv'e ALL BEEN BRAINWASHED FAR TOO LONG.">>>

No, that would be those who think that an all-powerful invisible magic person somehow created the entire universe with billions of galaxies and trillions of stars, and is personally interested in them, living on a tiny insignificant planet, and is also personally interested in their social life.

Please be aware, that neither biological evolution nor the Big Bang are anti-theistic - unless one prefers to place (unreasonable) limits on (their) all-powerful universe-creating God.

Creation vs Evolution

I cannot fathom the minds that believe that the multiples of animals,insects,birds,fish,flowers,trees,water,blood,ice,oxygen,and sexual organs all came together with a big bang! Why a Big Bsng why not a small whisper? Who was present when this big bang went off ? How did the food chain happen at the same time to feed the living creation,water,food ,oxygen,climate ,all had to happen immediately for anything to survive. Blood and flesh,lungs and heart, etc. All beating together at an instant. Earth at right distance to the Sun which came from the big bang along with Moon ,stars,planets and Universe of 50 billion galaxys . Come on you evolutionists (evilutionists).Youv'e ALL BEEN BRAINWASHED FAR TOO LONG.