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God and Country by Dan Gilgoff

Bart Stupak, Leader of Antiabortion Democrats: 'Not Very Confident' on Healthcare

October 02, 2009 10:15 AM ET | Dan Gilgoff | Permanent Link | Print

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Bart Stupak has no right to dictate women's right to choose, and I hope he burns in Hell. Unfortunately, since it will take some time for that to happen, meanwhile, we, as women, should mobilize to help other women. We have worked hard to achieve the economic success and freedom; it is our obligation to uphold the women's right to choose. We MUST financially support abortion clinics so that a woman who needs the procedure can get the help she needs. Please donate go your local abortion clinics, and pressure your district Congress. We will not be, and should be not ignored. this is truly urgent. please do not forget the fact that it was less than a half century ago, when women lost their lives from shoving a hanger to their uterus.

Re: health care bill and abortion

Who does Rep.Stupack think he is kidding? Not all sex is from love,but lust. As a man I think he can understand that. What makes him think taxpayers want to pay for other peoples children,because a man must fulfill his desires? He is forcing people to pay for other peoples children on welfare through higher taxes and he doesn't think we would rather pay for abortion.As for adoption,he needs to take a look at the amount of children who are in adoption homes, and those children that are abused physically, mentally and sexually and then tout his anti-abortion to those people who live through it. Has Rep. Stupak ever heard of seperation of church and state? How would Stupak like it if he was told how many children he was allowed to have? He would say it is none of your business. Well, the same goes for him telling women they have to have a baby just because some man sweet talked them or forced them to have sex. How about Rep. Stupak passing a bill that men who have two or more children and are not supporting their children that they have to get a vasectomy.No difference than him telling women what to do. It suprises me that women put up with him. I for one will help finance his opponent when his time is up for re- election.The women who he is denying abortion to is lower income.These are the women who go to work and are not able to afford birth control. Birth control cost $600 a year versus $800 for abortion insurance. Do the math, Stupak. Congress had abortion rights in their bill and kept quiet about it, what was good for the goose was not good for the gander. Maybe some of you people in the USA are too young to remember women not being able to get abortions and would use any means necessary to abort themselves, including using a coat hanger, and they died in the process, or they went to a doctor in a back alley who was not sanitary and they died from botched abortions. Is this what the people of the USA want? Would you rather a woman die and remember,it may be your mother, sister or your wife that dies.Any time congress wants a football to kick around or bargin with to get what they want,they use the abortion to get what they want.If Stupack is really concerned about abortion why doesn't he introduce a bill to make birth control more affordable?

Abortion in Health Care Reform

For those doctors and representatives who think that we should leave reproductive care, including abortion care, outside of covered care in the overall reform bill, please back off. All of us, men and women alike, need primary reproductive care. Men, like women, benefit when women receive care and vice versa. For those who don’t want their dollars to pay for abortion care or birth control that they perceive might work as an abortive agent, please consider the vastly larger dollar sums we all have to pay for destructive wars, many of which are unnecessary and very unwanted. Having reproductive coverage does not mean agreement with coverage. Having coverage does not force utilization. Omitting reproductive coverage will create a need for a secondary system that will struggle to meet that basic primary need and many will suffer in places where there is no secondary system.

Abortion and birth control are matters of survival for woman. Woman have proved their fierce protectiveness towards their children, over and over again. Give them their due on this and respect the fact that while not all might make the same choice that you or I would, that most take this issue seriously. regards

Responsibility:

If someone makes a choice to have sex and gets pregnant then they (the father and mother) should be held responsible for protecting and paying for the life that they started.

Responsibility:

Be responsible for the life that you start. Don't start a life that you must kill.

We are not animals that can not make decisions. We are not animals that can not control our sex drive. We are humans that can make good choices.

We can not act like that all of the sudden people are pregnant. There are several decisions made before getting pregnant.

No one's self desires or wants are more important than another persons life. If you start a life then be responsible.

There are many more solutions and choices that are better than Killing an unborn child. Be strong, brave, and nobel and make decisions that protect life.

Love the Mother and the Child. Both lives are equally important.

Love Life.

The Abortion is Slaughter and it is Wrong:

Killing 3200 babies a day and 1.2 Million babies a year in America is wrong.

Abortion is Not Health CARE.

Abortion is Not LOVE or CARE.

Abortion is not a solution.

Love Education is a solution.

Responsibility is a solution.

Love Life before Life Style is a solution.

Adoption is a solution.

Healthcare

The cost of sick, neglected and unwanted children is a cost to society. It does raise healthcare costs. What about mothers who get very sick during child birth, isn't that a healthcare cost ?

Love does not Destroy Life:

The Truth is that we all know that Abortion is not health care. It is a slaughter of 3200 unborn babies a DAY, 96,000 a MONTH, 1.2 Million a year, and more than 45 Million in 36 years in America.

This is a slaughter of the least of our people (poorest, weakest, most dependant, and least of our people).

Say NO to the free slaughter without a chance to respect and protect the lives of both the mother and the child.

Respect Life.

Protect Life.

Protect Love.

Love Life.

God Bless All of You who are Fighting the Good Fight.

God Bless the politicians that are Fighting the Good Fight for the least of our people. GO BART!!!!!!!! We are listening and we are supporting those that understand the importance of LIFE.

Romans 12:21 - Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.

LOVE!

Seek, Speak, Share, and Defend the Truth.

LOVE LIFE.

The president said "there will be no public funding for abortion.". He understands that HR3200 and Capps amendment has abortion coverage. He also states that his plan will not have abortion coverage.

We are looking forward to a Health Care Bill and amendments that have explicit language that says abortion is not funded by health care. It's simple. Close the back door and don't try to leave it open for abortion coverage by putting the language into an amendment.

This is not a Democrat -vs- Republican concern. It is a concern of the American people. The majority of Americans that are against abortion is growing. More and more people are aware of what is actually happening in the clinics. 3200 unborn babies are being slaughtered a day and 1.2 Million a year.

We do not want to fund the slaughter of unborn babies in health care. Abortion is not health care. Abortion is not Love.

We are waiting for the amendment that is explicit and allowed to come to the floor.

True Care is the solution.

Love the mother and the child.

Love is the answer.

Love does not destroy.

Love Life.

The Truth will set us Free:

Did you know, in just two years there are more unborn American babies (more than 2.4 Million) that die from abortion than all the Americans that have died from all our wars (less than 1.4 Million).

Honor and Respect to our soldiers who have fought for our freedom:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/american_war_deaths.asp

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At more than 1.2 Million American abortions a year this is the greatest killer of Americans each year. Deaths from abortion is greater than all other deaths in America (reference Center for Desease Control and Prevention counts). Simply put more Americans die each year from Abortion than from Aids, Heart Disease, Cancer, Accidents, and all other causes of death.

At more than 45 Million American abortions in 36 years since 1973 this is by far the greatest destroyer of peace and life in America.

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Did you know the #1 cause of death in America is Abortion.

Deaths by Abortion each year > 1,200,000

Deaths by the other leading causes each year:

Heart disease: 631,636

Cancer: 559,888

Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119

Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583

Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599

Diabetes: 72,449

Alzheimer's disease: 72,432

Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326

Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,344

Septicemia: 34,234

Source: Center for Disease Control and Prevention

We should not Kill.

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An unborn child is the least of our people. They are weak, poor, innocent, defenseless, and fragile. They are completely dependent upon our love and mercy. They are the least of our people in American. They are the poorest, weakest, most dependent, and by far the least of our people.

Why would we allow this slaughter of the least of our people to continue?

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When we make decisions, here are some important quesitons to ask:

Is this action equal love for all people involved?

Is this action the greatest love for the people involved?

Is this action love for people before things?

Respect Life.

Protect Life.

Give Equal Love.

Love people before things.

LOVE.

Love Life.

Seek the Truth. Know the Truth. Speak the Truth. Share the Truth. Defend the Truth.

Where do you stand:

John,

Simply said, we don't want slaughter of the unborn funded by our National Health Care. If it is not in the bill then there should be no objection to making it explicit in the bill. The amendment could simply say that the Health Care Bill will not fund abortion directly or indirectly.

We don't want any of three below part of Health Care Funding.

Suction Abortion is where they suck the unborn baby out of the mothers womb with a vacuum. The suction rips the baby into pieces.

Dismemberment Abortion is where they take forcepts to dismember the babies parts and pull them out of the mother womb. They rip the legs, arms, and body apart to extract the unborn baby. Then they crush the head to remove it.

Partial Birth Abortion is where they deliver everything but the head of the baby. They then stick a pair of scissors into the back of the neck of the unborn baby to seperate it's spine. Then they use the vacuum to suck the babies brain out.

Which of the above is a choice for the unborn baby?

Do you support the above?

Seek the Truth.

Speak the Truth.

Share the Truth. <<<< The Whole Truth.

Protect the Truth.

Love Life.

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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