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John Hagee Interviews Elie Wiesel

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By Dan Gilgoff, God & Country

Televangelist and Christians United for Israel President John Hagee has posted a fascinating interview with Jewish thinker and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel. I've transcribed a few of the most interesting and provocative exchanges below. You can watch the full video here.

Hagee: We have established in America Christians United for Israel to make it possible for millions of Christians to stand up and sp eak up for the state of Israel . . . . Would you express your thoughts about Christians unifying and coming to Washington to speak to senators and congressmen on behalf of Israel?

Wiesel: My dear pastor, in the past—the distance past—whenever Christianity unified its ranks, it was against the Jewish people. For the Crusades and the pogroms—it was always like that. Now, when I hear that Christians are getting together in order to defend the people of Israel, of course it brings joy to my heart. And it simply says, look, people have learned from history.

We are seeing right now anti-Semitism exploding in America and around the world. Saudi Arabia is giving millions of dollars to American universities to hire Middle Eastern academic chairs to teach our children to hate Israel and the Jewish people. Do you feel that the new anti-Israel position that's developing in this country is nothing more than a new face of anti-Semitism in America?

I cannot say that I am against anyone criticizing Israel. I cannot do it. I simply cannot. I feel that my life has been given to me not so as I can criticize the Jewish land, Jerusalem, which is at the center of my life. I cannot do it. But I cannot censor anyone who says, "I want to criticize certain parts."

But if it goes beyond the pale, that anti-Zionism becomes so easily anti-Semitism, and therefore we must be so careful. Whenever anyone does that, criticizes Israel, I say, "What are your credentials?" Have you ever praised Israel? Have you ever defended Israel? Have you ever been on the side of Israel?.

I believe the Jewish people are currently facing the greatest threat to their existence since the Holocaust. And specifically I'm talking about [Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad and Iran. He very specifically said he considers wiping Israel off the map and denies the Holocaust while threatening a nuclear Holocaust in our times. What are your thoughts about this man who ' s threatening Israel , and the events of 1936, '37, '38?

Without making comparisons, I must say that this man is a disgrace to humanity. The fact that he shamelessly stole the elections in Iran and the world is not really responding to that crime, to that scandal, is beyond me. This man is the No. 1 Holocaust denier in the world.

This man publicly, repeatedly says that he needs, that he wants nuclear weapons to wipe off the Earth one Jewish state. This man should be arrested and brought to Hague to face the international tribunal and charged with the incitement of crimes against humanity.

He does not deserve to be a president of any country. He should never be accepted anywhere as a guest, neither to New York nor to Paris, nor anywhere. He must be a persona non grata all over the world.

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Tipping point

As Israel PM Netanyahu recently observed at an airport celebration welcoming new Olim to Israel, the Jewish People are reaching a tipping point for the fist time in two millennia: More Jews will be living in Eretz Yisrael than in the nations of the Diaspora. What is the significance of this amazing paradigm shift? Could it be a certain cogent (and instructive) linear perspective and thus, purpose to history? Why is it that history is replete with examples of nations or people groups which have disappeared only six or seven generations after invasion, conquest or catastrophic national upheaval? Instead of appearing on list of extinct Semitic languages, Hebrew will soon be the spoken language of a majority of Jews. The plots, ploys, protocols, denials and revisions invented in every generation by antisemitism will wither entirely before the light of a new Dawn. The Jewish People look at the world through very old eyes. Our Golden Age is yet to be realized. All nations of the Earth can share and benefit in the vision of the biblical Prophets and this transformational Legacy.

Israel

The fact Israel exists shows the koran to be wrong, Israel will remain in their rightful place for ever, they can not be removed as the Lord has brought them back just as He promised He would. they may suffer military defeats in the future and half the city may go into captivity but they are coming to a time when they will recognise their Messiah , the one who was bruised and by who's stripes we are healed. His name is Yeshua.

I stand with Israel, with Gods chosen.

israel

Israel stands alone in a area totally opposed to its existence. The Palestinians vote in a evil regime whose purpose is to destroy Israel. They hide behind innocent children and Mothers.

They fire rockets from schools, mosques and hospitals. Before Israel hit back they would leaflet an area (over 900,000 dropped) to warn the civilians to get out before they would attack. They also phoned civilians to warn them that terrorists near by were going to be attacked. No nation through out history has ever taken so much care to limit civilian casualties.

With Iran's backing and behind the scenes also Russia's with have the potential for another holocaust.

My heart goes out to the Palestine people but they must vote in more moderate leaders who will be after justice and peace.

Shalom

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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