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Poll: Do You Support Obama's Order Extending Benefits to Gay Partners?

June 18, 2009 02:12 PM ET | Dan Gilgoff | Permanent Link | Print

By Dan Gilgoff, God & Country

Vote on whether you agree with President Obama's executive memo extending certain benefits to gay partners of federal employees. You can explain your vote in comments.

Do you agree with President Obama's decision to extend certain benefits to gay partners of federal employees?


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GOD IS AGINST GAYS

I don't think gay people should have gay rights we didn't have this problem when bush was in there why know it is in the BIBLE you are not to have sex with the same sex obama is going aginst god you should rethink your issues and think about the children that is going to see this go on in the steets and our military, everyone should be alowed to serve there country but if it has to be gays in the military they should be segragrated iam sorry if iam stepping on anyones toes but thats how i feel i have children i dont want them to think it is ok for men to be with men or weman with weman god didn't intend for it to be this way.

Vote Mitt Romney 2012 for economic-ideological superiority

In 2012 we must vote for Governor Mitt Romney to become our President starting on January 20, 2013 , because of his superior economic intelligence and conservative right wing philosophy . First Governor Mitt Romney is economically smarter than Barak Obama. Secondly Governor Mitt Romney's superior rightwing conservative philosophy is shown in that he is pro God and Christianity, pro life, pro marriage; pro guns-second amendment, pro low taxes, pro low government spending; pro small government, pro unintrusive government, pro traditional and Judeo Christian values; pro Bible reading and prayer in our public schools, pro Christians schools and private education , pro private and free enterprise; pro military spending, anti arms agreements with Russia, pro creation; pro nuclear, pro conservative supreme court judges, pro American sovereignty; pro capitalism, anti communist, anti socialist; conservative on immigration, and pro constitution. Barack Obama is of the inferior liberal and left wing ideology in that he is against every thing that Governor Mitt Romney is for and Barack Obama is for every thing that Governors Mitt Romney is against

John Warren

If you want to see what rule by Al Qaeda would look like...

...Look no further than the theocratic remarks of those who wish to ban gay marriage. Their worship for the nonexistent has lead them away from the path of tolerance, freedom, and abundance that America would otherwise have.

Instead of having a deep respect for America's "Founding Fathers" and America's escape from theocracy, (to the extent of their limited knowledge --as Deists-- in a pre-Darwin scientific era), these "conservatives" wish to escape to the comfort of unreason. Ayn Rand, Leonard Peikoff, and Christopher Hitchens have all repeatedly destroyed the argument that the creators of Western civilization were "Christians" with Christian values. Those who advanced the cause of individual liberty did so by freeing themselves and the government of the rule by churches. They believed in a god that was obviously disinterested in human affairs. Their belief is technically defined as "Deism".

It's the most positive incarnation of religion possible. It places 100% of the responsibility for knowledge, growth, production, and practicality on the individual.

Arguments that we are "a Christian nation", and are thus somehow duty-bound to follow the self-contradictory scribblings of primitive civilizations is idiotic.

I have a right to be free from government-enforced religious intolerance. So do the gays. We all have a right to be free from government intervention in (or support of) any kind in marriage. Sadly, this argument is not the one that Conservatives claim as their own.

If they did, I wouldn't be able to call them out as the hypocrites they obviously are.

The Libertarian Party is the party of diversity, emergent order, property rights, tolerance, freedom, life, love, and evolution. There is no indication that equality under the law for homosexuals interferes with any of these American values. In fact, such equality under the law supports and affirms those values.

As comedian Louis CK said: "Gay marriage is the one thing that doesn't effect straight people!"

As Hayek pointed out, "Conservatives" lack a meaningful philosophy of any kind. They want to return to the past, without defining what it is that they appreciate about the past. As we've lost American freedom, many people half-heartedly wish to regain it. Unfortunately, they do not wish to define what they seek. As such, they wish to return to a past with more freedom in some ways, and less in other ways.

"Conservatives" lack a philosophical heirarchy. They argue that homosexuals are a bad influence on "our" kids.

I can name a worse influence, though: A man so cowardly that he wants his taxes to interfere with another person's private life, using government force. A man so cowardly that he puts this unlawful interference above regaining his lawful right to defend his own family (gun rights). A man so cowardly, he teaches his kids Tertullian's values above John Locke's values. That's the real un-American influence: ...The American idiot.

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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