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God and Country by Dan Gilgoff

Holocaust Museum Shooting Threatens to Undermine Right's Pro-Religion Image

June 10, 2009 05:41 PM ET | Dan Gilgoff | Permanent Link | Print

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Thanks to El Chub Caba for "National Socialist" phrase

El Chub said Hitler was a National Socialist. The Nazi Party stole the word "sociaiist" and took over the formerly pro-labor, pro-worker party. Socialism opposes for-profit capitalism. But Nazis were so profit-seeking that they even sold dental gold, hair, fat, and ashes of victims. To give their buildings to Nazis, mental patients were killed. Hitler was an altar boy and was never excommunicated. Other Roman Cathoiic Nazis were Himmler, Goebbels, Dr.Mengele, Eichmann, and many others. Their mothers couldn't abort their conceptions because their Church bans abortions. Confusing the word "socialism" and wrongly attaching it to Nazism is hurting us now in arguments over "socialized medicine, That actually means non-profit, tax-paid health care. It means taking employers and insurance companies away from a system that will let us have affordable dentists and doctors. We have had socialized medicine in the military for a long time and it extends to dependents. I close by saying "fringe groups," if touched ever so lightly by religious propaganda, react as if they were swept along by the full weight of it.

Von Brunn was a National Socialist,.......

.......He has way more in common with the president and his Socialist Democrat Party.

My Apologies

Mr. Pack. I too am Pro-Life, and I apologize to Ms Palin. I did not understand that she, like you and I, supports a woman's right to choose. Thank you for your concern.

Different topic

Loren of OK. I thought about your comment about me being opposed to the government taking control of our private lives and your statement that Sarah Palin supports "Forced Birth". So, I found this YouTube video of her and Katie Couric from the recent election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v77WekmM8F8

She repeatedly uses the word "council" as in to council women who are carrying babies of rape situations into carrying the fetus to term. No where in the interview did she say she is opposed to abortion or the morning-after pill even after Couric pressed her to answer. She would not throw anybody in jail for having an abortion and she said she wouldn't participate in that(morning after pill) kind of contraception. I admit I did not investigate further but if you follow this link and watch it yourself with an open mind, you should come to a similar conclusion.

After raising children and enjoying grandchildren, I admit to sharing Palin's views. I'm pro life. I love my kids (and consider all children precious) and would council any woman to carry a baby to term then put the child up for adoption rather than kill it in the womb. I would not obstruct that woman from having an abortion should she so choose. That's her choice and one she'll have to live with. Nor would I go and try to harm abortion doctors. I consider myself conservative (my family is democrat) but I look at things with an open point of view. Something this article from Mr. Gilgoff is not doing.

Goverment Control

It is good to see Mr. Pack of Florida is opposed to the Government taking control of our private lives. Sadly Ms Palin and others still support Forced Birth.

Liberal Movement Sweeping the Country

I see it now... Mr. Gilgoff is simply jumping on the bandwagon with his fellow left-leaning liberals in proclaiming the "Right-Wing Nut". According to the liberal media, free speech is only free if a liberal is attacking a conservative. David Letterman can tell sex "jokes" about Sarah Palin's teenage daughter, and all is fine. However, if Sarah Palin and others try to enlighten America on the dangers of government control, we are all labeled as "nuts."

The Founding Fathers setup our government to protect us from big government taking more and more power away from the People yet, when someone warns about the dangers of big government, they are labeled a "Right-Wing Nut". Are you ready to join the club? Looks like Mr Gilgoff has. It has nothing to do with what he may or may not believe in his heart. It has everything to do with getting in-step with his Liberal Media peers.

Since you admit you don't believe the two shootings have any ties to Conservatives in general, then you wrote this piece of trash article just to stay lock-step with your buds and fuel hatred against "right-wing nuts". Pitiful.

Seriously

Anyone who commits a murder in name of their religion is a fool. I am sorry but if someone agrees with abortion, and others do not why try to kill each other over this? What gives you the right to decide who lives and who should die? You do not carry out the work of your religion you carry out the work of your own personal Satan. You may not agree with someone about it but i know christian morals teach that if you do not agree with someone about the situation, then you should not condemn them but instead respect their opinion and let God deal with it. Why is it that people do not understand this?

Sad to see the denial

Reading some of the comments really sadden me. First a report comes out and says hey these people have right wing values may be dangerous. They are roasted for it. Then the abortion doctor and the white supremcist kill people. The same way that the report said it would happen. Now people instead of going "Hey there is a problem" we get the whole left/right issue. Why not admit there is a problem and try to solve it. If you preach fear, hate and violence over the internet and then it happens, what do you expect. Everyone has a right to their 1rst amendment rights. I understand that and agree to it. However, when you yell fire in a crowded room, people scatter and run for the door. Someone gets trampled. Who's fault is that? The person on the floor or the one you yelled fire?

Not every conservative right wing person is like these people. In fact, I would say that it is lower than 1 to 2%. They are the extremists. Just like Islamic extremists. They are ALL dangerous...

heyyyy wait

how is antisemitism and white supremacy right wing? it's just hate. it's not political at all.

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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