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Pew Poll: 'Moral Values' Has Tumbled as Voter Priority

June 02, 2009 10:49 AM ET | Dan Gilgoff | Permanent Link | Print

By Dan Gilgoff, God & Country

E.J. Dionne spotlights a recent but overlooked Pew survey that finds "moral values," cited by more Americans as their top issue than any other concern in the 2004 exit polls, is now tied for third place as issue No. 1. Check out this graph from the survey report:

There's been a nearly 250 percent jump in the proportion of Americans citing the economy as their top issue. Same goes for education. The share of Americans citing healthcare as tops is up 300 percent.

This raises the interesting question of just how effective the Democrats' post-2004 faith and values offensive has really been. The fact of the matter is that that bucket of issues is way down on voters' priority list. The Dems' religion offensive hasn't been tested in anything like '04's political climate. Assuming the economy eventually improves, though, it will be.

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Floored by Stupidity

The comment, "Peopele simply need to be more responsible instead of using murder as a way out. People are more important than plans. Having an abortion because you didn't plan for a pregnancy is STUPID!" is full of confused thinking. Is that evidence of stupidity?

Talking about abortion as "murder" is stupid propaganda. It is false that abortion is murder. It is legal in all the states of the USA. An abortion does involve killing, but only a stupid person assumes that all killing is murder.

Since fetuses are not "people" (or peopele), it is quite appropriate to focus on the pregnant woman and her choice regarding her actions and life. That some pregnant women make a different choice than I think they should is irrelevant to the issue of their being responsible.

There are a very large number of reasons why people have abortions. One factor running through many of them is that the pregnancy was not planned. The fact that it was not planned is largely irrelevant to the issue of whether it is the wisest choice in the circumstances that the pregnant women face.

I happen to think it is idiotic to try to make all of the less than the wisest choices possible illegal. Stupidity is not illegal; nor should it be.

Abortion is silly

People have lost their sense of morals. I am still wrapping my mind around the notion that people would rather abort a baby than control their desires. If you are dead set against having a baby then the best option is to not have sex. I am all for birth control, but if you don't want a baby then birth control still poses too high of a risk for pregnancy, SO STOP HAVING SEX!!!! I still have a hard time believing there are so many people who would murder their own child, just to save themselves from having to change their lifestyle to include someone else. We have three children, two which were planned and the third, our 2 month old daughter, who was a total surprise to us, and I could never imagine murder being an option. We were scared to death when we found out I was pregnant because we hadn't planned financially for a third, and we weren't sure of how we were going to make it work, but having her now and looking back I feel really silly for worrying in the first place. We are doing just fine. We have had to make some major adjustments to our lifestyle, but we couldn't be happier.

I am also the "product" of a rape. I asked my mother if she ever considered aborting me and she said, "Not even for a second". She said I ended up being the person who saved her from herself because she had to adjust her life to having a baby which made her a more responsible person in the end. She said she was most certain she would be dead from drug overdose by now hadn't I come along. She said that a lot of people told her that looking at me daily would always be a constant reminder of the rape. She could never understand the concept that somehow having a child from a rape was going to be a constant reminder of an event that she would never forget whether she got pregnant or not. I haven't lived at home for years and she still has flashbacks. So no there is really no reason for an abortion.

Peopele simply need to be more responsible instead of using murder as a way out. People are more important than plans. Having an abortion because you didn't plan for a pregnancy is STUPID! Hell, I even know a woman who got an abortion because she had been planning and saving for a trip she wanted to take for two years and she simply could not have a baby get in the way of that. Sick, sick people.

Morality is the name of the Game

Right now we are still trying to digest the murder of a doctor because his specialty was helping his patients make an intelligent decision about aborting an unwanted and un needed pregnancy......this is a medical decision and not a political decision whether the right wing likes it or not....there are out there in every major city children who are neglected and abused by their parents because the parents really do not care for their offspring.....Morally people who bring children into the world and cannot take care of them are at the bottom of the social ladder and that is where they put themseves.....Planned parenthood is the way to go....period...

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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