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Oldest Woman to Give Birth Dies, Raising In Vitro Fertilization Ethics Issues

July 16, 2009 05:33 PM ET | Bonnie Erbe | Permanent Link | Print

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thats nasthy

you should not be have sex befor your 15 and ather your 70 you should give brith 20 40 by the way obama is trying to make school longer go to obamas plan to make school longer

What is the point here?

We cannot compare times now to Bible times. No one lives to be 187 yrs anymore, anywhere. That woman made a conscious decision to endanger the physical/ mental capacity of newborn children because of her age..and she chose to have them knowing that she ran a high risk of abandoning them by dying not too long after birth.

big difference between old man and old woman siring.

my father fathered children well into his 70's and all of us were at least blessed to have known him while he was alive. My youngest sister didnt know him long but at least she has memories of him. Good ones.

I however would never compare a man having babies late in life to that of a woman mothering children late in life. Usually when a man has babies late in life, its with a wife; A wife who is of safe natural child bearing age. Usually when a man has a fertile wife late in life, he is financially independent and secure. Thus, in the invent of his passing, the children are still financially secure. My father was also an american polygamist. When he passed there were other housemoms who took over the "father" role. (one of the untouted benefits of the polygamous family arrangement). It wasnt as if one woman was suddenly thrust with the burden of raising children alone.

This woman on the other hand was at a dangerous age to give birth. The risks to the baby and to her are immense at that age. I dont care if women want to jeopardize their own lives and welfare. Thats their business But the risks to the unborn child are too great to be worth the risk. Older women miscarry too large a percentage of their pregnancy attempts. I'm all for adoption or something like that.

From what I understand, the children are now orphans which means she didnt have a male partner (right?). It was foolish for her to have children at her age with no male partner to be there. Just stupid.

I wouldnt compare this situation to that of my dads who had a spouse who was of safe childbearing age and who was financially secure enough to provide support for his children long after his passing.

Let Me See If I Follow The New Twist In Your Usual Lack of Logic....

We should pass laws against older women who want children - but make sure they can kill those that they don't want. Doesn't this sort of expose the feminist war cry of "Reproductive Rights" and "My Body - My Choice" that they shriek whenever someone suggests that maybe they shouldn't kill babies for personal convenience - I'm just sayin'...

ethics

This is a strange place to hear the word Ethics, Here in the states its ok for Homosexual men to adopt black kids for their use. And the Liberal news groups does not even report it, Where is the black rage? Ethics,????? Kill children every day durning late term abortion(with tax payer money).ETHICS This is a joke right ?????

ethics vary by country

As a woman residing in the European Union, and undergoing IVF, I can tell you that the ethics vary greatly from country to country, and Spain is known for it's lax attitude. In France, when a woman is past the legal age for IVF 43, she can go to Spain, South Africa, India, or the United States and find doctors that will treat her. In the US, clinics have little government oversite into their procedures, this resulting in more frequent high order multiples (very dangerous pregnancies) than their European counterparts.

I believe that as Americans, we expect ethics to be ever present in the global fertility problem, we need to enter into a debate based on facts, and statictics, not something anecdotal based on isolated cases that is going to make it difficult for 'normal' couples with difficulty conceiving to prusue treatment.

Age -vs- Ethics

Age –vs– Ethics

The issue is neither age nor industry ethics, in my opinion. The issue is business efficacy.

Even young, virile parents die [via many causes] and leave even younger children behind for family members to care for or Foster care programs; and in many parts of Africa and the world for the streets to care for.

As a pro-choice, living-will advocate, I am not interested nor qualified to regulate personal choices concerning procreation or transience, especially not for able-bodied competent adults; now children and the disabled – that’s another matter.

What I am interested and qualified to regulate is the establishment of minimum steps a fertility clinic must comply with to verify an applicant’s veracity. This, in my opinion, is a decisive step toward protecting the children of potential in vitro fertilization applicants.

If Maria del Carmen Bousada could lie about her age, only God knows – when in fact the CDC, DHHS, IRS, FTB, SSA and DMV and other agencies should know – what other critical lies are being proffered such as an applicant and their immediate family member’s personal and criminal backgrounds, income and job history, even medical history and, most importantly, current state of health certified by a licensed, qualified doctor. These are just a few vital components of an adult’s life – elements which have direct measurable impact on the quality of life the child would potentially have.

Since the adult is soliciting the clinic for the help to have children, one would hope that these clinics perceive it to be their business responsibility to do thorough background checks to ensure that they are providing in vitro fertilization to as physically, mentally, financially, family and community stable an adult as possible. If not voluntarily, then so be it – then by force.

It is not an issue of age or industry ethics, but business efficacy, which can be regulated.

Oldest woman to give birth dies...

If she was healthy enough to carry a twin pregnancy and assumedly pass the fertility clinic's screening process, why would anyone think she would die prematurely? Young women with small children also die unexpectedly. I would hope that a person of her age would have made provisions for such an unexpected event.

Was she advised to produce at least one more tither?

She is Spanish and Spain is a "Catholic nation." It may sound odd, but is it possible she had religious counseling that included reference to the importance of tithers?

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About Bonnie Erbe

Bonnie Erbe is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report and hosts PBS's weekly news analysis program, To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe. She also writes a weekly syndicated newspaper column for Scripps Howard News Service.

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