Running of the Bulls in Pamplona Is Cruel, Sadistic, Outdated and Should End
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Running of the Bulls
Maybe if more people were killed during the running of the bulls (I wish all the spectators killed) they would stop this barbaric, horrific display. This is a way to show their macho ism? These men should show how to be men by fighting for the animals right to die in a humane fashion. For the person that said this is Spain's issue, no, this is a world issue. I will never EVER visit such a backward, barbaric country. To say this is an old tradition is the same as saying, Spain has not come through the dark ages. Bulls are such a beautiful important creature. Without them, we would have no cows. God put them on earth to procreate so that we can have food on our table. Not to watch something so dark, and sinister. What the heck kind of people could get off on seeing this?
the method of killing is trivial?
Are you saying there is no difference between these two:
1. To be killed instantly, with a minimum of pain and fear.
2. To be tortured to death, slowly and with as much pain and terror and humiliation as possible.
Surely you do not believe that these are the same things.
I don't know much about what bulls experience, and I doubt that you do. The do feel pain, fear, and anger, though, just like you and me.
I don't know whether people should eat meat. Lots of animals do, and it may be a perfectly natural thing for people to do.
But what earthly reason is there to torture animals to death? Bulls in Spain, chickens in Ecuador, dogs in the United States.
People are, for the most part, stepping out of the Stone Age. We try to stop doing stupid, vicious, cruel things that we did before. Fox hunting has been outlawed in the UK -- even though it was a tradition.
If you are sitting in a cesspool, stand up and get out of it. Don't explain why you are allowed to stay in the cesspool.
reality of nature
Humans clearly have more efficient ways of killing an animal, but in nature, animals like these are torn apart by their predators in worse ways. I really don't find the level of "cruelty" to be much worse in the method used by bullfighters. Nature is far worse.
Anyway, this is Spain's issue. This is not a human rights issue where the US should voice concern, but a moral issue involving that country and it's laws.
I personally eat meat and wear leather. If one truly feels that bulls have a distinct ego and can experience the world and it's life to the full capacity that we can, and that life and death has meaning to the animal, then the method of killing is trivial. The proper stance would be not to kill animals at all.
I don't like bull fighting.
I mean I really don't like the whole idea of it. But we in America have plenty of problems of our own to fix. We can best be friends to Spain by minding our own business.
facing death
Sargento, you say that in Spain, you go to see someone face death and try to do it with some aesthetic manners.
How often does the matador die? How often does the bull die?
This is the point I was trying to make: the matador doesn't face death. The bull faces death.
If the people in Spain want to watch someone face death with aesthetic manners, then they have to watch something WHERE SOMEBODY DIES. The matador doesn't face death, with aesthetic manners or in any other way.
If Spanish people want to watch someone face death, they have lots of options. One of them, as I said, is to take away the matador's sword and cape and put him in with a bull that has not been mutilated.
Of course, a matador in those circumstances might not show a lot of aesthetic manners. He might run like hell for a few seconds and then jump behind a barrier, as the people in the streets of Pamplona do.
I'd feel pretty brave too, facing down the heavyweight champion, if his arm muscles had been severed by a guy on a horse, and if I had a sword. I might find a way to be pretty aesthetic, too, if I had all my friends ready to run in and pull the champ off if I got in trouble.
Nobody would cheer me, though. Perhaps they would if I were in Spain.
hypocrisy
Bonnie is always trying to shove her ideas done others throats. I'm sure if it was up to Bonnie she would outlaw any activities where you could be killed or injured. How boring. BTW Bonnie aren't all killings inherently violent? Bonnie just has no shame when it comes to spinning issues to distort the truth. The running or fighting will continue because it is part of Spanish culture. How would Bonnie feel if Spain suggested Christmas was an outdated Christian custom and suggested we ban it?
Culture diferent
Asian people eat dog and cat pet as their traditional food beside bush meat, African people hunt for their meat too, while America and Euro mostly provide themselves with harvest meat from the farm. In Asia we have like Chicken fight, Water Buffallow fight, or like Elephan and Tiger or Lion way back when we have like Royal Family. Rusian and Mogolian have like hunt wolf with golden eagle as sport, and dog fight with bear as their sport also, Japan have like whale hunt like American Native used to hunt buffallow. Anyway animal was created for human consumed, insome country like africa they even spear anything they see for food. Bull Run or Bull fight in Spain only small number of them get kill compare to how many cow were kill in US to put in burger meat so i think if people thinking it that way they could stop whining green party huh? hey i love the new Konigsegg =D nice car eah run on green power
pamplona bull runl
i was there, it was intense and exciting but do not agree with killing of the bulls. the tradition is abiut reverence and celebrating a saints life that was matrtyred yet trhe debaucherous behaviour of the people with their vomiting and drinking was a shock to the system. the poor bulls were hit and maimed. the tradition should start inside the church and the bulls should be spared-lets not forget why they run with the b ulls to celebrate the life of st fermin.
I was there
I was in the bull run where Snr. Jimeno was killed, only a few meters behind him. I thought I would also get killed by Capuchino. It's so wonderful to know that so many people out there wish more of us had been killed. Despite what so many people here think, I believe there is a respect for bulls within Spanish culture; sure, it is a different form of respect than people who treat animals like humans--the power of the bull is respected. In the bull ring after the run, they release calves with corked horns. The Spaniards will take down anyone who does anything to the animal that is considered disrepsectful. I saw a couple of guys get kicked and punched for doing the wrong thing.
I was there
I was in the bull run where Snr. Jimeno was killed, only a few meters behind him. I thought I would also get killed by Capuchino. It's so wonderful to know that so many people out there wish more of us had been killed. Despite what so many people here think, I believe there is a respect for bulls within Spanish culture; sure, it is a different form of respect than people who treat animals like humans--the power of the bull is respected. In the bull ring after the run, they release calves with corked horns. The Spaniards will take down anyone who does anything to the animal that is considered disrepsectful. I saw a couple of guys get kicked and punched for doing the wrong thing.
