As Birth Rates Hit Record Levels In the U.S., Are We Becoming More Like China?

Re Population explosions

Yes we have a lot of immigration,legal and illegal anda huge amount of children comming into the world.....the moral question is what percent of the parents will actually take good care of the children that they have brought into the world ... the statistics are not too good.....Thomas Malthus , the english economist addressed this problem and worried about food production in his day but it is not hard to see that our planet cannot support an endless amount of people...and he suggested that the search for space and nutrition is in fact a leading cause for hostility and war.....the Chinese by the way are not exactly a peacefull and happy people from all appearances...

Population

I don't think there is much if any controversy among the people about the detrimental effect of immigration and increased population, but...

1. The Democrats want millions of immigrants to consolidate one party control. Immigrants vote Democratic. Watch for Obama to push for Comprehensive Immigration "Reform," i.e., add 30 million illegals to the voting rolls and continue the breeding of Democrat-voting anchor babies.

2. The Republicans want the low cost labor. Yes, people like Bush and elite free traders see migration of low cost labor into the US as a plus, for them, of course. They do indeed want a Chinese or Indian kind of labor force.

http://www.watchingamerica.com/diewelt000007.shtml

"In this conflict, George W. Bush, for once, has adopted a liberal position. Back in the summer of 2001, he and Mexican President Vincente Fox had reached an agreement on a policy of open borders, including wide-ranging legalization and dual citizenship. The INS – the then Immigration and Naturalization Service, now part of the Department of Homeland Security - objected vehemently,and in the aftermath of September 11th the plans of the two presidents were in any case, shelved."

3. Then there are the actuarial problems of social security and Medicare. Doubling the population will enable Congress to Ponzi-up these programs for one more generation before overpopulation destroys the country forever.

So what can we do? With both major parties corrupted by the advantages to them from population and immigration--the Hispanic vote, the cheap labor, the potential of economic growth and tax base growth from population growth (at the expense of natural resources, especially non-renewables)--I see no hope for saving this country myself.

Incorrect Title

The title is misleading. The graph in the study shows that the birth rate has remained steady since the mid-1970s, and is far lower than in the 1950s-60s.

I would like to hear more from Ms Erbe. This is a serious issue. Just recommending a "national conversation" doesn't help anyone.

So what can we do? Ban legal immigration? Pull the Army out of Iraq and Afghanistan an put it on the Mexican Border? Get rid of child/daycare tax credits and deductions for middle class families to discourage parenthood? Offer free tubal ligations to women on welfare (or perhaps even pay them to get the procedure done)? I don't think these measures would go over very well with the American people, but are mild compared to the population control measures in China.

Ms Erbe, please give us some of your suggestions to get the conversation started.

Abortion isnt killing

Abortion isnt killing if done early term. Even St. Augustine understood this concept. At that point, you are eliminating genetic potential.

Early term abortion should be advocated by the government as population control. People who think its murder are looney

Well

America cannot pursue a government-mandated birth limitation as China attempted. So, in our free country, it is a matter of convincing men to get their voluntary vasectomies at appropriate times in life.

For some, that could reasonably be at very young ages. I had mine at 22 after one child and some medical reasons why my wife was cautioned against trying for any more. We have never been sorry. One wonderful son and 37 years of marriage (so far) have been adequate blessings for which we are grateful.

True enough, we were very young when we made this decision for a specific reason. But looking back now from age 57 and seeing the costs of raising many children AND the added liklihood (with each additional one) that some will not turn out as hoped, I do not believe the world needed me to add more population to the earth. Would that some more men would ponder on this--perhaps especially some who tend to shun marriage anyway.

What Are You Suggesting?

You being an atheist, radical, pro-abortion "feminist" - I have to wonder what you're implying.... The Chinese solution of killing female babies? Or, just killing all babies?