Blacks Are More Socially Conservative Than Barack Obama
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Prop. 8
Prop. 8 does not remove any rights from homosexual couples. Domestic partnerships already have all the same rights and privileges as married couples under the law (please see the CA Family Code section 297.5, which states: "Registered domestic partners shall have the same rights, protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules, government policies, common law, or any other provisions or sources of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses." . http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?sect...
prop 8 BO
Brian Leubitz :: Barack Obama Opposes Prop 8, the anti-marriage amendment
Dear Friends,
Thank you for the opportunity to welcome everyone to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club's Pridc Breakfast and to congratulate you on continuing a legacy of success, stretching back thirty-six years. As one of the oldest and most influential LGBT organizations in the country, you have continually rallied to support Democratic candidates and causes, and have fought tirelessly to secure equal rights and opportunities for LGBT Americans in California and throughout the country.
As the Democratic nominee for President, I am proud to join with and support the LGBT community in an effort to set our nation on a course that recognizes LGBT Americans with full equality under the law. That is why I support extending fully equal rights and benefits to same sex couples under both state and federal law. That is why I support repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, and the passage of laws to protect LGBT Americans from hate crimes and employment discrimination. And that is why I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states.
For too long. issues of LGBT rights have been exploited by those seeking to divide us. It's time to move beyond polarization and live up to our founding promise of equality by treating all our citizens with dignity and respect. This is no less than a core issue about who we are as Democrats and as Americans.
Finally, I want to congratulate all of you who have shown your love for each other by getting married these last few weeks. My thanks again to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club for allowing me to be a part of today's celebration. I look forward to working with you in the coming months and years, and I wish you all continued success.
Sincerely,
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Barack Obama
http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=4EC152DB295D9C0235A63C7D729E5235?diaryId=6307
You are both crazy
So suddenly Exit Polls are a true measure of statistical value? Ridiculous.
Don't blame African Americans, if true, who came out overwhelmingly in support of the marriage ban.
Who is to say that this "revelation" was only meant to sour the grapes of a new Black President?
Furthermore, you are going to blame Obama for California blacks voting for the ban?
Obama's position on Gay Marriage has always been the same, what makes you think it would be any different now?
You people are the most self-centered and egotistical morons in the nation.
You just try to pull the same crap against Obama that you guys pulled against Colin Powell back when he was Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Clinton.
When he went to speak at some conference all of you turned your backs to him with your pink shirts or whatever.
Do it this time and Gay Marriage Ban will seem insignificant in comparison.
As a Black man...
I just don't agree with her. I think she's looking at the state of Calif and making generalizations. It doesn't matter, as long as she doesn't try to make any other correlations or ties it to inroads for the GOP. That would be a huge mistake.
As a Black man...
Blacks will not vote for a GOP over social issues that disagree with White liberals. In other words, the GOP will not ever get our vote in an significant measure because of their brutal views towards African Americans, their hatred towards us, their vitriolic rhetoric and their policy positions that we disagree with...as a whole.
For example, we hate Palin...and that's understating it. Her presence will bring out the vote again for Obama. Romney vs. Obama...he's a flip-flopper on abortion and will say or do anything to get elected. Geez, he said he was for it...then got elected in Massachusetts...LIBERAL STATE! and then ran for president and then changed his position to solidify the conservation base!! Does he think we're dumb. We're not buying that crap.
Giuliani vs Obama, NOT. He divorced his (2nd) wife, while he was seeing dating his 3rd wife or something nasty like that. He was cheating...to make a long story short and he did it more than once. Moreover, he hired and sponsored Bernard Kerik, who outdid him: He cheated with multiple women, in multiple states (NJ an NY)!
McCain vs Obama - Part II -- won't happen. McCain is one foot from the grave and is too old.
Huckabee vs Obama -- nice guy. Too conservative for Afr Americans. Blacks won't vote for Huckabee as long as Obama has done an admirable jobe in the White House. Some Afr Americans won't vote for the GOP ticket as long as there is a Black on the Democratic ticket. HINT TO the Democrats: You want Black turnout....try sponsoring a great Afr American or Hispanic.
A lot of white correspondents are still trying to figure out how and why Black people vote the way we do. Most are wrong. If these reporters think that there is ANY correlation between the 70% Afr American turnout in Calif w/ respect to the gay marriage proposal, they will wiping egg off their face. The GOP can't make this an issue for us as Afr Americans. First, we'll see through it for the crap that it is. Second, we'll vote for the Obama (for whatever our personal reasons are) and then vote foragainst the proposition. In other words, we'll vote for the president and then vote for our cause.
Black people are only 7% of the population of California..
How is it they're being scapegoated for Prop 8??
WE & THEY Fed-upness
Wow Daniel,
Tired of being white? Thats like saying "tired of being gay" isn't it. I hope this country is tired of alot of things: raping the earth, gun violence, poverty, hate crimes, trade imballance, debt, persecution, prejudice, CEO/Corporate greed, greed on all our part...the list is long. These are blights of humanity--all races. Whatever tiredness you are trapped in, it's color is not white or any other.
Obama was elected because he was perceived by 1/2 of this country as being the better of two choices we had. He wasn't my choice but now I join WE. WE is a big word for just two letters. I hope WE join Obama and this Administration in our "Fed-Up-Ness with what we can all agree on as being wrong and evil. I hope WE will take action that goes beyond petty boycotts to right universal wrongs.
For me, Gay will never command special "rights" that go beyond what WE all deserve in this Country---respect and kindness even in our differences. For me, the benifit of doubt as to whether a fetus is a human being will go to the helpless unborn who cannot protect his/her rights but needs WE to do it for them.
These are two of many reasons I did not vote for Obama. I believe he is wrong and I, not WE, will deal with that for me.
WE have much more that we do agree on than WE dissagree. If WE fight for those ideals, WE have no time to fight over what obviously divides us all. Can WE and THEY agree?
"He would never have been elected, at this point in our history, if he were a black. Obama is mixed race and the great hope, not for blacks or whites who are prancing in the streets with hollow glee"
From a well thought , anthropological point of view, that may all be true. But Obama is about as black as anybody in this country at this point, or just about as much of a mut at that.
Point is a lot of white folk voted for that man. A lot of white folks who considered him"Black" . It speaks volumes more to me how fed up this country is with whites. I think were tired of being white, thinking white. Our way of showing the world we do not want to be tyrants anymore.
