The Wreckage of Wall Street and Barack Obama's Big Opportunity
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I can vouch for the fact that Bush cut taxes for more than just the rich. I was paying taxes on a very small income. It was a hardhip and brought tears each year when tax day rolled around
Since Bush became president, I haven't paid one dime.
I will be voting for McCain. He has much more experience-He is interested in defending our nation and keeping us safe.- And more importantly, I don't have to wonder whether or not he loves his country. He has spent a lifetime surrounded by patriots and has put his life on the line for freedom. Not so with Obama; he has spent a lifetime surrounded by anti-Americns and has hobnobbed with terrorists. His love for America is questionable
McCain showing signs of dementia?
john mc is a very confused old man.....have you been noticing how often he is slipping up the last days? He cannot afford to make mistakes such as implying Spain's Prime Minister is a rogue and an enemey of the US!!! Nice going McCain, for proving to us what we already knew, you are not ONL:Y OUT OF TOUCH WITH AMERICA AND OUR CITIZENS, YOU ARE ALSO OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD!! McCain, you do not know that Pakistan borders Afghanistan and NOT Iraq; you believe Chechoslovakia is still in existance when, in fact it split into two countries - The Chech Republic and Slovakia! You do not know which factions are which in Iraq; you believe "the fundamentals of our economy are strong, VERY strong" when in fact the economy is very sad shape and the money institutions are collapsing like dominoes. and much, much, much, much more. Fellow Americans, McCain has some very serious 'brain" issues which we MUST NOT TAKE LIGHTLY!! He is a threat to our country, much more so than Bush has already been! THINK! THINK! THINK!!
Very few voters seem to think deeply about their choices. What is it that qualifies either candidate for office? What qualities, what beliefs, indicate depth and direction of leadership for either of these two top picks?
McCain seems to be drawn toward party lines. That, in itself and given prior experiences, may be disastrous if we have to endure similar problems for the next four years.
Obama seems to offer an opportunity to move our stewardship in a different direction perhaps like Roosevelt did some 60-70 years ago.
Given the manner in which big business has failed, both financially and as a mentor for individuals, it may be the moment in which the government must step in to right the economy by spreading wages among the currently unemployed via use of specialized segments similar to the old "make work" programs(ie: TVA, etc.) which stabilized our country's economy and allowed the nostalgic growth of the 50's.
I've no particular choice here but had I to pick, I'd prefer someone who's ideas allowed for expansion in directions which might be beneficial to our country as well as the individuals who are the essence of our economy. I'm pretty sure that if a Republican candidate is elected to the office of President of the United States that very little will change with respect to the role of the middle and lower economic classes of the U.S.
Remember, if you make less than 3 million dollars that you are falling behind, according to a man who doesn't even know how many homes he owns. Must be nice but for me, I just hope that I have enough money for food at the end of the month.
Voting for people who don't know the price of a loaf of bread is an exercise in futility. Stop hoping that by voting for the moneyed crowd that somehow you'll benefit. If you haven't become one of the multi-million dollar middle class in the last 8 years then the writing is on the wall. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
Use your head and vote for (possible) change versus the Old Guard. I am.
Economic and Energy crisis, the real 3 a.m. call for Obama and McCain.
Economic and Energy crisis, the real 3 a.m. call for Obama and McCain.
Lehman Brothers fails today. Falling values for homes continues to affect financial institutions all across the country. The real truth is that the crisis in the economy and the energy crisis are really one and the same. As the price of energy, and everything else has soared, this has a ripple effect throughout the entire economy. Gas cost more, so you have less to spend on other things and all the people that work in the stores that sold you those things now have a lower income. They therefore cannot afford to buy things, like houses, and on and on down the line. Plus the cost of everything that you have to buy goes up. Everything in every store you ever visited got there by truck. Any energy prices are causing the cost of driving a truck to go up. There is an underlying energy cost in virtually every single product that you buy, be it houses, electronics or food. Farmers had to buy gas to plow their fields, plant their seeds, harvest the crops, and transport the crops to market and on and on.
The underlying economic problem in this country for quite some time is the very simple fact that we import more than we export. You can relate how this works to a household budget. Your imports are the amount that you spend your exports are the amount of income you earn and if you continuously spend more than you earn, you're not going to end up doing very well economically. For years, the biggest factor in our trade deficit has been the importation of oil. Decades ago when oil was cheaper, we decided to make a trade-off. That trade off was a willingness to spend money to import oil and produce less domestically, because it was dirty. The oil spills off the Gulf coasts and off the coast of California were an annoying problem for anyone who went to the beach. I am old enough to remember visiting the beach as a youngster, and at the steps of every hotel along the beach there was basically some rags in a bucket of kerosene or some similar solvent to clean your off the bottom of your feet so you wouldn't track oil back into the hotel. The technology has greatly advanced. Offshore wells now have shut off valves below the seafloor. They close automatically in an emergency to prevent large quantities of oil from leaking into the sea. As a side note, 80% of all the oil on the earth that’s ever been formed has already leaked to the surface. The amount of oil spilled into the ocean today by man is only a tiny fraction of natural leakage of oil. Oil is lighter than water or rock, and after enough rock builds up over the top of it, it gets squeezed and the pressure goes up. If there are any fissures or cracks in the rock, it rises to the surface. Bacteria consume it and it becomes part of the food chain. After all, crude oil is pure organic material; it only causes problems in high concentrations, like a major oil spill. There have been no major oil spills off the coasts as a result of offshore drilling in many years.
And most importantly, the economics of our decision to import oil instead of producing it domestically has changed. At current world prices, and especially their peak price reached a few months ago, we are spending hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars to import oil. The cost of the Iraq war is also an economic drain but the economic drain of the Iraq war is only about 20 or 30% of the economic drain of importing oil. In 1973, the Arab oil embargo caused a similar economic crisis in our country. Of course the obvious effects were the gas lines and the increased price of filling up your car at the pump. But our entire economy suffered greatly. Inflation soared and jobs were lost. Pretty much the same thing that we're experiencing right now. It was because of the ripple effects of energy prices, which is an underlying cost to produce virtually everything we eat or use in our daily lives. This is somewhat mitigated however, if the energy that we are paying increased prices for comes from inside the US. Because the net wealth stays inside our country, increased income from producers of oil is used to purchase goods, products and services that everyone else depends on for their income. If the money flows outside of the United States it is a net loss of wealth.
Earlier this year, when the price of energy soared, that was the 3 a.m. wake-up call. It should have been easily foreseen by Obama and McCain and everyone else that the ripple effects of virtually doubling of energy prices would have throughout the economy. The fallout was going to be brutal and widespread. McCain reversed his earlier position, and the position of pretty much everyone else, and said it was time to open up the outer continental shelf, but not ANWR, for drilling. He made it part of the way but didn't really propose an all-out plan to increase production. Obama came out against offshore drilling. It's McCain that got a grade of “incomplete” and Obama, a grade of complete failure.
The real solution to both the energy and related economic crisis is to become energy independent. Either Obama or McCain could have said the following statement and passed their 3 a.m. test:
“We are in a national emergency. We must become energy independent. This emergency requires the concerted efforts of our most creative and hard-working people all across the country. We need to greatly increase our investments in alternative energy sources, especially carbon free sources, like nuclear, wind and solar. But we also must realize that the time has come to explore every resource we have available to us. We need to produce every additional alternative energy source we can produce, and we need to extract every last barrel of oil and cubic foot of natural gas on American soil that we can find in an environmentally sound way. And we need to do it very quickly. We are out of time.”
The question of course is which candidate will figure this out, and will they figure it out before it's too late.
From:
http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/economic-and-energy-crisis-real-3-am.html
Taxes for rich and middle class
Taxes aren't put on us willy, nilly. They are really payments for services. They pay for those who are willing to represent us in congress, they pay for national and local infrastructure. They pay for fire protection, police protection, public schools, army, navy, airforce and marine protection. Taxes help pay for the system that enables people to make money, some make lots of money.
In my grandfather's day there may have been trickle down benefits but now, money that is made here, goes offshore. More American's don't get hired, people on other continents do. The middle class makes less but has to cover for the taxes that the suffering rich feel they can't afford. It seems to me that the large corporations consisting of wealthy stockholders, CEOs and executives should be grateful to the country and workers that enabled them to get rich and should want to give back, should feel that they owe something for all that they have received. I guess that the rich think that they can do it all on their own. Too bad the rest of us can no longer afford what the corporations have to offer. I am not pushing communism, I am crying for justice, something this country is very short on. This does not seem to be the USA I was born into.
Taxes for rich and middle class
Taxes aren't put on us willy, nilly. They are really payments for services. They pay for those who are willing to represent us in congress, they pay for national and local infrastructure. They pay for fire protection, police protection, public schools, army, navy, airforce and marine protection. Taxes help pay for the system that enables people to make money, some make lots of money.
In my grandfather's day there may have been trickle down benefits but now, money that is made here, goes offshore. More American's don't get hired, people on other continents do. The middle class makes less but has to cover for the taxes that the poor put upon rich feel they can't afford. It seems to me that the large corporations consisting of wealthy stockholders, CEOs and executives should be grateful to the country that enabled them to get rich and should want to give back, should feel that they owe something for all that they have received. I guess that the rich think that they can do it all on their own.
How does "take money form the rich" going to help US
First, I am not rich, I am an immigrant from China.
Obama's "take money from the rich and give it to the poor" is intend to turn this country to socialist/communist.
What did the "Rich" do to harm America? They are the one's who invest and created jobs. Only those Lawyer "riches" such as Obama alike hurt this country.
While I am not a big fan of MaCain. But I am definetly not voting for Obama.
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The middle class, those under 250k get a tax break estimated at $1100 per household versus $300 from McSame. The 250k tax bracket just goes back to the original bracket before the Bush giveaway to the wealthy. Hedge fund managers who make millions pay at a capital gains rate, at best half of what should be paid as income. That 's ridiculous. We've experienced the largest disparity of wealth, and transfer of wealth to those who do not need it since the robber-baron days. Wealthy investors don't drive our market. The average worker fuels this economy & since real income has gone down since 2000(Bush), most workers couldn't give a damn about those on top that this effects most. It's like the REp. calling it a death tax, instead of an estate tax that only effects a few. Maybe if the Rep. hadn't deregulated financial transactions, as McSame voted for, and Bush hadn't been asleep at the switch, we wouldn't be in this mess. McSames adviser, remember Mr. Whiner, led us into much of this dereg. mess by sticking in a rider to a must pass bill that led to commodities & banking dereg, and if McSame & Failin' are elected, he'll be Treasury Sec. & the average worker will get screwed again. All the fear mongering in the world didn't help Bush overcome yet another failed second term.
PEOPLE DON"T WANT HIGHER TAXES.
theoretically should be an OBVIOUS boost for obama-rama. this speculation over who will get the "bounce" from the downturn indicates a growing economic policy problem for Obama-Rama.
Dems think common people don't understand that doubling the capital gains tax will discourage investment/growth. they do.
typical Libs.
OBAMA-RAMA has an economic policy problem. the deeper we get into the autumn, the worse it will get. compound that with his social policy problem and you've got a slaughtered socialist.
