Hillary Clinton's Name Will Go Into Nomination
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ANOTHER FIXED ELECTION
The OLD BOYS CLUB/PARTY BOSSES of the Democratic party fixed the nomitation. They shook down the banking industry and fed the money to Obama.
PUMA
I am happy that Senator Clinton's name will be placed in nomination, it would be simply ludicrous if her name wasn't placed in nomination. Sadly, if this is purely a symbolic event, we will clearly all be aware of it, and it IS sad because I know Obama can't win and Hillary can. I don't care what Obama-Media says, and I know we've already had the American media dictate our reality for far too long, and worse, we have allowed the news media to make the news, but the truth is that Obama doesn't stand a chance of winning the general election if he is the nominee.
Obama didn't win the popular vote, nor the big blue dem states, nor the all important purple swing states, and he mainly won red republican states by caucus. He is an extremely weak candidate because of this, and also the fact that he is very inexperienced, has a flimsy resume, a questionable record, and a disturbing background. Beyond that, Obama outspent Hillary 4 to 1 in places like PA, and Hillary just kept winning and winning, especially toward the end, which is a bad sign for Obama. Obama only made it this far because the media has been in the tank for him, protecting and promoting him, while never vetting him as they concentrated on attacking the Clinton's and Hillary's supporters. Absolutely no one will forget that delegates were stolen from Hillary and given to Obama, no one will forget the under-handed actions at the caucuses, and no one will forget that accusations of racism and methods of misogyny were used for politcal gain.
NONE of it will be rewarded with my vote. There are millions of democrats who will not vote for Obama, and one need not look any farther than the exit polls to see that a HUGE number of democrats will not vote for Obama. You have to remember that the media covered up all of Obama's shocking associates and history until the very end, and not even Pastor Wright hit the mainstream media until a year after he was first interviewed on Fox. Clearly there has been a media cover-up, not unlike what was done for Edwards. Only a small child would not be able to see that.
Beyond that, Hillary was called on to quit since Iowa and she kept winning and winning. It doesn't matter what the media says, and it doesn't matter what the "changed" dem party big tops say: MORE people want Hillary and MORE people said they would not vote for Obama if he got the official dem nom.
It's either Hillary or McCain in 2008. I want a democrat NOW, but if Obama gets the dem nom, obviously McCain will be president, and then I will furiously wait until 2012.
DEMOCRATS are USED to losing and waiting...and waiting...
Nothing new!!
That's why I am TIRED of waiting, and we need to elect the stronger candidate NOW.
Hillary Clinton for president in 08 OR 12.
Just Say No Deal
Puma Pac
The Denver Group
P.U.M.A.
Hillary a "Hulking Beast"?
Mike Frazier -- You really need to retool that metaphor, son. It is inaccurate, silly and not terribly flattering.
By the way, what IS Hillary's "experience," exactly? She's only ever held one elected position, and the rest of her resume consists primarily of being "Bill's Wife," along with some corporate board seats (courtesy of being "Bill's Wife") and a modicum of early lawyering in Arkansas.
She is certainly a capable person, but she has "cracked the glass ceiling" largely by marrying an ambitious politician, and piggybacking on his career. The way her supporters have spun it, she's Winston Churchill, Mother Teresa and Sonic the Hedgehog combined. I just don't see it. I remember the Clinton Administrations, and her "co-presidency" was largely contrived.
As for Obama, he responded rather intelligently and forcefully to the Georgia situation. (There are TV cameras and microphones even in Hawaii!) Like McCain, he was in contact with the Georgian President and urging UN involvement. Unlike McCain, he didn't immediately start threatening Russia, or "presumptuously" send his own delegation to meet with America's crackpot ally. I was very pleased to see that Obama didn't immediately make threats we can't back up, in a situation that is vastly more complex than "Georgia good," "Russia bad."
We all love Hillary
She's the only "vetted" candidate for the job, and the only one who can beat McCain.
Obama ran a terrible campaign-the only arguments he put forward were that the issues were so close they didn't need discussing, and You're a racist!!
Obama - Master of Disaster
The seed of World War III has been planted in the Caucasus, and Obama is body surfing on the beaches of Hawaii.
I've given up trying to reason with Obama's Kool-Aid drinking cult followers. What about you delegates and Superdelegates?
If you're a farmer, unless you want your family to starve, you don't buy a worthless showhorse to pull your plow. You buy that hulking beast who can plow all day, get up tomorrow and do it again.
As Hillary Clinton said during the primaries: She is ready. John McCain is ready. Obama ... gave a speech in 2004.
Your showhorse is such a lightweight. It's time for you to show some courage and put your country ahead of your personal political careers. Vote for the workhorse. Vote for Hillary.
only gentlemen apologize
Obama used misogyny and sexism as a campaign strategy--yes, there is a lot to apologize for.
Apology? Ain't Gonna Happen!
If they apologized that would mean they would have to said, "yes it happened." To date when Obama has ever been asked he has stated, "No comment." They want to leave that Elephant in the living room.
As far as the nomination, I'll believe it when I see it. As Marc from the Denver Group said, "There can be no caveats, no fine print. There has to be a legitimate, open convention with an acknowledgement that by their own rules the Democratic Party does not now have an official nominee. Senator Clinton's name in nomination has to mean a genuinely democratic opportunity for super delegates to exercise their judgment and to cast their votes for the nominee they are willing to take responsibility for sending out against the Republicans, based on who they think will be the better candidate and the better President."
I am not holding my breath for a true democratic process.
turndownobama
The margins needed are pretty small. Lsst I saw, Marc Rubin's Denver Group said only about 175 supers breaking for Hillary would give her the victory.
As for the November election, several columnists are agreeing that the Dems need all of HIl's supporters, not just c. 70%. Even 18% of her 18 million staying home might be conclusive, as the victory margin in the 2004 GE was 3 million.
I have this wild dream that Obama himself will do the math and, if polls hold steady against him, decide that he'd rather be Hillary's VP than the McGovern of 2008. He could take his 2 terms after Hillary's and the Dems would havea four terms in the White House. Too many Hil's aren't going to settle for anything less than Hillary on top.
Obama/Clinton wouldn't help either
Obama/Clinton wouldn't help Obama any either. A WP/ABC July poll found it repelled as many people as it attracted -- a wash. Many strong Hillary supporters wouldn't like it either, as can be seen from blogs like bitterpoliticz, pumapac, etc, where VP is considered and insult and a trap.
Nothing Obama has tried yet has made Hil's 'flock' to him; polls of Hil's are holding steady all summer. He keeps escalating his offers. I hope he tries VP pretty soon so we can get that out of the way too. Then finally he can do the right thing -- Clinton/Obama -- if he'd rather not tank in November.
