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The "Wall Street Journal" Enters the Law School Rankings Debate

August 26, 2008 03:38 PM ET | Robert Morse | Permanent Link | Print

The debate about the potential impact of a possible change in the U.S. Newsmethodology for the upcoming law schools rankings continues to grow. Today, the Wall Street Journal weighs in with the front-page story "Law School Rankings Reviewed to Deter 'Gaming.'" The article offers up one analysis of the potential effect the inclusion of part-time students in the rankings data could have on the future of part-time law school programs.

Some background: In my blog post "Changing the Law School Ranking" Formula, we discussed the idea of combining both full-time and part-time entering student admission data for median LSAT scores and median undergraduate grade-point averages in the calculation of the school's ranking. Our current law school ranking methodology counts only full-time student data. Just to be clear, U.S. News is carefully contemplating the potential impact of such a methodology change; we will not make a decision until January 2009.

If implemented, for most law schools the changes in rankings would most likely be very small, because the differences between their combined data for both full- and part-time entering students versus full-time only are minimal. Of course, schools that have big differences in these two groups of data would be more heavily affected.

As always, we continue to talk with law school deans about the methodology, particularly those who have expressed their views on the negative impact such a change would have on their part-time programs. Some deans have told us they would have to choose between maintaining their law school rankings by raising the part-time programs' admission standards or maintaining the status quo of their part-time program and risk falling in the ranking.

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Personally, I think LSAT's and other scores of that ilk are about as meaningless as they come. Why rank what goes into thes school? It would seem to make sense to rank schools based on a comparison of their LSAT scores and the scores on the bar exam after graduation. That way, we know what went in, and what came out. The measure of the school would be the variance based on certain benchmarks.

Otherwise, we are just measuring the popularity of something based on word of mouth, as opposed to real value added stuff. If you changed to that formula or something similar, than I would say you are truly measuring the "quality" of a school.

This is similar to the Harvard problem. Harvard, generally, get the very cream of the crop and you could make a strong argument that the vast majority of Harvard grads would have done quite well in life even without a college degree. So, what does Harvard really do for it's excellent students. Does it in fact make them worse. Would students be better off going to OSU since the differential between their incoming freshmen and outgoing senior is the highest. Would this education system in fact more greatly benefit higher quality students?

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Robert Morse is director of data research for U.S. News & World Report and has worked at the magazine since 1976. He develops the methodologies and surveys for the America's Best Colleges and America's Best Graduate Schools annual rankings, keeping an eye on higher-education trends to make sure the rankings offer prospective students the best analysis available. Morse Code provides deeper insights into the methodologies and is a forum for commentary and analysis of college, grad and other rankings.

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