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Pethokoukis vs. Ritholtz: the Brawl to End 'Em All

May 12, 2008 03:37 PM ET | James Pethokoukis | Permanent Link

I have been challenged. My ursine friend Barry Ritholtz of the fabulous Big Picture blog wants to bet with me whether or not the U.S. economy will slip into recession in 2008. (I have been skeptical, to say the least.) Actually, it is a bit more complicated than that. Ritholtz's terms:

If a recession is eventually declared by the [National Bureau of Economic Research], and if in between the official start and finish points there is any month in the first or second quarter of 2008, I win. In other words, if any part of Q1 or Q2 2008 is part of a recession, James loses. If there is no recession, or if there is one, but it doesn't include any month in Q1 or Q2 2008, James wins. Loser buys dinner for 4, at the restaurant of winner's choice. Why 4? Winner's and loser's spouses are included. The wager includes dinner, wine, car valet, and tip. James, do we have a bet?

Now since that original post, Barry has graciously offered to modify the terms of the stake. With me being a poor-but-proud member of the Fourth Estate, and him being a big swinging whatever on Wall Street, perhaps a more modest prize would be appropriate. (Not to mention that I am in D.C. and he is in NYC, and the odds of both my wife and me getting to the Big Apple are about the same as getting a baby sitter for our six small children—zipparoo. Plus, given my lowbrow tastes, I might have chosen the Sbarro Market in Times Square.)

So here is my counteroffer: Since we are both tremendous movie buffs—particularly of the film Blade Runner from 1982, the same year that saw the start of America's quarter-century economic boom—maybe we could have the loser buy the winner five Blu-ray DVDs of the winner's choice.

(Now let me add that if the eventual result here is that the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that the economy went into recession in late 2007 but only a single quarter turns out to be negative, I will view that as a victory of sorts. Such a mild downturn would be at odds with the apocalyptic economic language coming from some quarters of the bear camp.) So, Barry, are we on?

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The Brawl

Jimmy--I think Barry's definition is pretty darn vague. The NBER has dropped its back to back quarters of negative growth definition, but it was a good definition. How about you hold him to a quarter-by-quarter bet. Will the adjusted first quarter be negative? Will the second quarter be negative? Without at least an entire quarter of negative growth, how can there be a recession? Stakes: two DVDs per quarter.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe . . .

The 5 disc Bladerunner set -- complete with briefcase, and inserts, in the format of the winner's choice?

Sounds like fair terms to me!

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James Pethokoukis is the money and politics blogger for U.S. News & World Report , where he writes the monthly Capital Commerce magazine column. Pethokoukis is also the assistant managing editor of the magazine's Money & Business section. He has written for many publications including the New York Times, the American, USA Today, Investor's Business Daily, and TCS Daily. Pethokoukis is also an official CNBC contributor and appears frequently on that network's Kudlow & Company, Power Lunch, and The Call shows. In addition, he has appeared numerous times on MSNBC, Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, CNN, and Nightly Business Report on PBS. A 1989 graduate of Northwestern University where he double majored in Soviet politics and American history and a 1991 graduate of the Medill School of Journalism, Pethokoukis is a 2002 Jeopardy! champion.

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