Would Obama, Dems Kill 401(k) Plans?
I hate to use the "S" word, but the American government would never do something as, well, socialist as seize private pension funds, right? This is exactly what cash-strapped Argentina just did in the name of protecting workers' retirement accounts (Efharisto, Fausta's Blog). Now, even Uncle Sam isn't that stupid, but some Democrats might try something almost as loopy: kill 401(k) plans.
House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans. In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created "guaranteed retirement accounts" for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return. Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee's Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since "the savings rate isn't going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that's not generating what we now say it should."
A few respectful observations:
1) McDermott is right when he says the savings rate isn't going up. But the savings rate doesn't include gains to money you invest in the stock market. It ignores the buildup of net worth. (If you bought a share of XYZ Corp. in January at $100, for instance, and its value doubled by December, the savings rate measure would still value that investment at $100. In short, the savings rate is a phony number.)
2) So based partly on the above faulty logic, the $4.5 trillion, as of the start of the year, invested in 401(k) plans doesn't count as savings.
3) Ghilarducci would have workers abandon the stock market right at the bottom of the market. A stupid idea, according to Warren Buffett: "I don't like to opine on the stock market, and again I emphasize that I have no idea what the market will do in the short term. Nevertheless, I'll follow the lead of a restaurant that opened in an empty bank building and then advertised: 'Put your mouth where your money was.' Today my money and my mouth both say equities."
4) Ghilarducci would offer a lousy 3 percent return. The long-run return of the stock market, adjusted for inflation, is more like 7 percent. Look at it this way: Ten thousand dollars growing at 3 percent a year for 40 years leaves you with roughly $22,000. But $10,000 growing at 7 percent a year for 40 years leaves you with $150,000. That is a high price to pay for what Ghilarducci describes as the removal of "a source of financial anxiety and...fruitless discussions with brokers and financial sales agents, who are also desperate for more fees and are often wrong about markets." Please, I'll take a bit of worry for an additional $128,000.
5) What effect would this plan have on an already battered stock market? Well, I would imagine it would send it even lower, sticking a shiv into the portfolios of everyone who didn't jump aboard. But I am sure the Chinese would love to jump in and buy all our cheap stocks to fund the retirement of their citizens.
My bottom line: If you believe in the long-run dynamism of the American economy, then you have to believe in the stock market. Listen to superinvestor Buffett, not the prof from the New School.
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401k for purchasing a house
Hello, I am planning to use ny 401k to purchase a home, my employers' policy won't allow borrowing but they allow us to withdraw the money and that means not avoiding the penalty. I understand that I will be penalized for using it because it will be added to my annual income.The good news is some people say that the IRS will waive the 10% penalty if used for purchasing a house. Can you help me with my concern. Is there any form to fill out to waive the 10% penalty for the IRS? Is there any program from Mr. Obama that shows that?
Thanks in advance for answering my questions?
Pethokoukis (respectfully) ignores The General Depletion Picture
If equities are bets on growth, and growth based on cheap energy, what does thast tell us? It comes down to whether you want to bet your money on ever-increasing energy units per capita. Or, another way, the companies you bet on, will be able to continue making money when, not if, the oil supply flattens, then inexorably diminishes year on year.
Bet on equities if:
The Feds call in all gold coins & bullion, to shore up the currency
Policymakers and corporate initiative hedges against transport breakdown with massive expansion of rail mains, capacity & extensions, plus rehab of dormant branchlines to assure victuals & necessities of life when trucking suffers from diesel rationing.
Leadership in public and private areas of responsibility will read & heed James Howard Kunstler, Christopher C. Swan, and Richard Heinberg.
You should have voted for Ron Paul.
We get the government we deserve. I wonder how many of the above commenters voted for Ron Paul, contributed to his campaign, etc. McCain is no different from Obama. They are both card carrying members of the Grand Socialist Uniparty. Yes they have different styles but the outcome is always the same: spend public money which they print out of thin air.
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